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Bertha may pose a long-range threat to the U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:43 PM GMT on July 05, 2008 +6
Tropical Storm Bertha has maintained it's strength overnight, but is having trouble with Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) of 25°C--one degree below the threshold of 26°C considered beneficial for tropical storms. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed Bertha, but last night's pass confirmed winds of at least 40mph. Satellite estimates of Bertha's strength have consistently put the storm's strength at 50 mph over the past day. The storm is under about 10-15 knots of wind shear.


Figure 1. Latest satellite image of Bertha.

The forecast
The models are now more confident that Bertha will not take a turn to the north east of Bermuda, with two models--the UKMET and NOGAPS--calling for the storm to pass very near the northern Lesser Antilles Islands by Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. These islands should anticipate the possibility of tropical storm conditions as early as Tuesday night, even though the current official track keeps Bertha well north of the islands. Bertha may be large enough to bring tropical storm force winds 100-200 miles from the center by Tuesday. A threat to the East Coast of the U.S. is now possible, with such an event most likely to occur about 7-10 days from now. It is also possible that high wind shear will tear apart Bertha (as predicted by the ECMWF model), or that the storm will recurve to the north just east of North Carolina, missing the U.S. The long range track of Bertha is highly uncertain, and it is too early to speculate how likely each of these scenarios is.

By Sunday morning, Bertha will be over SSTs of 26°C, which will warm to 27°C by Monday and 28°C Tuesday. this should allow Bertha to intensify to near Category 1 hurricane strength. However, by Tuesday, wind shear is expected to increase to 20 knots and remain high for several days, as Bertha encounters a branch of the subtropical jet stream. The higher shear should weaken the storm.

Elsewhere in the tropics
There are no threat areas to discuss in the tropical Atlantic, and none of the models are forecasting tropical storm formation in the next seven days.

I'll post an update by Sunday afternoon.
Jeff Masters
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2. TerraNova 12:48 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thanks Doctor!
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3. philliesrock 12:50 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thanks for the update!
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4. sporteguy03 12:51 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
No threat to Threat, wow what an amazing update! Right JFV?
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6. FLWeatherFreak91 12:51 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thank you much Dr. M
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8. Cavin Rawlins 12:52 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thanks for the update
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9. surfmom 12:52 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
is the accuracy of the models compromised because Bertha early formation is an anomaly?
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10. weathersp 12:52 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thanks Dr.M!
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11. IKE 12:52 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thank you for an update....

The higher shear should weaken the storm......

Dr. Masters said.

Hope you're right!!!!!!!!!!!!
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12. FLWeatherFreak91 12:52 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
And when Dr. Masters says an area should watch out, he means it, because I've never understood him to be over-dramatic... hopefully this system is turning to he north before it gets me here.
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13. breald 12:53 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
So this is going to be a fish storm? is that what I just read
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14. IKE 12:54 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
12. FLWeatherFreak91 7:52 AM CDT on July 05, 2008
And when Dr. Masters says an area should watch out, he means it, because I've never understood him to be over-dramatic... hopefully this system is turning to he north before it gets me here.


I agree...it's got my attention.
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15. IKE 12:54 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
13. breald 7:53 AM CDT on July 05, 2008
So this is going to be a fish storm? is that what I just read


(1)It may not be.

(2)Too early to know.
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16. TerraNova 12:55 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
13. breald 7:53 AM EST on July 05, 2008 '

We don't know if this is going to be a fish storm or not. Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on a lot of factors that remain hypothetical at this moment.
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18. extreme236 12:56 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Bertha trying to become better organized with center under convection and a CDO pattern. I notice Dr. M thinks Bertha will become a hurricane and if Bertha holds her intensity today I do too.


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19. breald 12:57 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thanks guys.
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20. FLWeatherFreak91 12:58 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Everyone take notice that this is the first time land has been in the probabilities:

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21. TerraNova 12:58 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
18. extreme236 7:56 AM EST on July 05, 2008

While it appears to have a CDO, notice that they've put the weakening flag on. The dry air is getting to her but she could still intensify to near or over hurricane strength in the long run as she moves into a more conductive region.
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23. extreme236 12:59 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
NHC looking to hold Bertha at 45 knots at 11am as well unless anything significant happens:

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 16.4N LONCUR = 36.4W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 18KT
LATM12 = 15.8N LONM12 = 32.6W DIRM12 = 285DEG SPDM12 = 18KT
LATM24 = 14.7N LONM24 = 29.0W
WNDCUR = 45KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 45KT
CENPRS = 1000MB OUTPRS = 1012MB OUTRAD = 180NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 75NM RD34SE = 30NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 75NM
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24. breald 12:59 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
I misread his statement about Bertha Not taking a turn to the north east of Bermuda. I thought it said it will..LOk. I rhink I need to go do some yard work now.
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26. IKE 1:01 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 16.4N LONCUR = 36.4W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 18KT
LATM12 = 15.8N LONM12 = 32.6W DIRM12 = 285DEG SPDM12 = 18KT


Notice the direction...from 285 to 280...getting closer to a true west direction.
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27. extreme236 1:02 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
21.

They likely have the weakening flag on because the ADT got a raw T# of 2.9, and it had the rapid dissipation flag on last night, so I don't put too much stock in the weakening flags unless I see the same on satellite imagery. The convection seems to be holding up ok and Bertha has changed little in organization over the past several hours. All of this indicates to me that Bertha is holding her own despite limiting factors and after about 12-24 hours she should be moving into progressively warmer SSTs, which IMO should allow Bertha to become a hurricane if shear is low.
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28. FLWeatherFreak91 1:02 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
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What about me JFV??? I guess you want me to get blown away b/c I haven't done my preparations lol just kidding
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29. stormlvr 1:02 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Kudos Dr. Masters. It is time to start mentioning at least the increasing possibility of a landfalling storm.
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30. extreme236 1:04 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Okay we need to calm down a bit lol. Dr. M did say there is a chance Bertha could hit the CONUS, and I agree that there is a chance. But, its gonna take several more days to pinpoint exactly who is gonna hit, if anyone at all. Keep in mind, the ECMWF has Bertha getting torn apart by shear several days from now before it even reaches any land.
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31. Thundercloud01221991 1:05 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
what about a new York or northward landfall?
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33. philliesrock 1:06 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
I still think New England is the biggest threat for Bertha.
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35. surfmom 1:07 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
thanks Storm :)
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37. FLWeatherFreak91 1:09 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
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not really vacation... we got a house here and we can't just leave... although we've had to do that in the past
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38. extreme236 1:09 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
32.

Well I wouldn't start evacuating or putting up shutters yet. People in the Caribbean should already be prepared and this storm will hopefully make them prepared, but I do like the NHC forecast track right now. The 06Z GFDL and HWRF actually have the track farther to the right and suggest a fish storm. NGPS and UKM are more the left of the NHC track while the GFS is about right on the track. If Bertha intensifies stronger than what the NHC forecasts, then she may move more to the north than indicated.
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39. surfmom 1:09 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
hitting the road BBL Great Morning You ALL!
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40. TampaMishy 1:09 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
So does anyone think FL will get hit "possibly"?
Should I start hoarding gallons of h2o? I'm on the gulf side but I am curious.
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41. IKE 1:09 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
5 knots of shear over Bertha...with a high too....I agree it should intensify.......

CIMSS Shear map
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42. palmettobug53 1:10 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Thanks for the update, Dr. M.

Will be keeping a wary eye on things. Cape Verde storms are the ones that tend to cause us the biggest problems here in SC.
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43. weathersp 1:10 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Lines may look scary but its the strength you have to watch...
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44. philliesrock 1:11 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
12z early models...



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45. FLWeatherFreak91 1:11 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
40. TampaMishy 9:09 AM EDT on July 05, 2008 Hide this comment.
So does anyone think FL will get hit "possibly"?
Should I start hoarding gallons of h2o? I'm on the gulf side but I am curious.


IF this Storm makes it to Fl it would obviously be an East coast storm, so over on the west coast you needn't be AS worried. But, I think it will most likely curve right on approach to fl and hit somewhere further north.
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46. weathersp 1:12 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
41. IKE 9:09 AM EDT on July 05, 2008
5 knots of shear over Bertha...with a high too....I agree it should intensify.......


Don't forget though it in 25 degree Celsius water..


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48. HurakanPR 1:13 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
Dr.Masters now thinks the northern island are in Berthas past, which is an almost due west track for that to happen, interesting .
49. TerraNova 1:13 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
GFDL has a Category 2 hurricane in 126 hours, although this may be a bit too aggressive, taking into mind that wind shear will begin to rise and slow development in this time frame. HWRF has Berthe just under hurricane strength at 126 hours.

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50. FLWeatherFreak91 1:14 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
47. jphurricane2006 9:13 AM EDT on July 05, 2008 Hide this comment.
are the early 12Z model runs trending back to the north? lol


i have no idea. I think?
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51. FLWeatherFreak91 1:15 PM GMT on July 05, 2008    
48. HurakanPR 9:13 AM EDT on July 05, 2008 Hide this comment.
Dr.Masters now thinks the northern island are in Berthas past, which is an almost due west track for that to happen, interesting .


he didn't say they were necessarily in its path, he just said they need to be prepared and monitor the situation in case it goes west.
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