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Bertha may pose a long-range threat to the U.S.
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:43 PM GMT on July 05, 2008 +6
Tropical Storm Bertha has maintained it's strength overnight, but is having trouble with Sea Surface Temperatures (SSTs) of 25°C--one degree below the threshold of 26°C considered beneficial for tropical storms. This morning's QuikSCAT pass missed Bertha, but last night's pass confirmed winds of at least 40mph. Satellite estimates of Bertha's strength have consistently put the storm's strength at 50 mph over the past day. The storm is under about 10-15 knots of wind shear.


Figure 1. Latest satellite image of Bertha.

The forecast
The models are now more confident that Bertha will not take a turn to the north east of Bermuda, with two models--the UKMET and NOGAPS--calling for the storm to pass very near the northern Lesser Antilles Islands by Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. These islands should anticipate the possibility of tropical storm conditions as early as Tuesday night, even though the current official track keeps Bertha well north of the islands. Bertha may be large enough to bring tropical storm force winds 100-200 miles from the center by Tuesday. A threat to the East Coast of the U.S. is now possible, with such an event most likely to occur about 7-10 days from now. It is also possible that high wind shear will tear apart Bertha (as predicted by the ECMWF model), or that the storm will recurve to the north just east of North Carolina, missing the U.S. The long range track of Bertha is highly uncertain, and it is too early to speculate how likely each of these scenarios is.

By Sunday morning, Bertha will be over SSTs of 26°C, which will warm to 27°C by Monday and 28°C Tuesday. this should allow Bertha to intensify to near Category 1 hurricane strength. However, by Tuesday, wind shear is expected to increase to 20 knots and remain high for several days, as Bertha encounters a branch of the subtropical jet stream. The higher shear should weaken the storm.

Elsewhere in the tropics
There are no threat areas to discuss in the tropical Atlantic, and none of the models are forecasting tropical storm formation in the next seven days.

I'll post an update by Sunday afternoon.
Jeff Masters
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1701. FLWeatherFreak91 2:24 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I change my opinion lol. it is just the convection. But I think we are all watching a little too closely. lol. Bertha probably is freaking out right now bc all these people are like, 'omg it's going left, omg it's going right. OMG OMG OMG" What if she's shy?
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1702. Drakoen 2:24 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
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1703. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:24 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
hello kman
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1705. weathersp 2:24 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Yeah...I see the COC.. Its very hidden but its in the dead center of the CDO in the cloud tops.

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1706. JLPR 2:25 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I still see west
convection illusion, like when yesterday it seemed to be going SW but it was the convection =P
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1707. Drakoen 2:25 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
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1709. philliesrock 2:26 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I'm seeing a west-west-northwest motion...mostly west, but with a hint of northwest.
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1710. FLWeatherFreak91 2:26 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I do see the CDO now. Uh oh she's strengthening over cold waters and it's not even dmax yet!
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1711. IKE 2:27 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    

1700. weathermanwannabe 9:23 PM CDT on July 05, 2008
That ULL over Central Florida is starting to suck down convection from GA and North Florida towards it; looks like it will be pretty rainy around the FL peninsula tommorow (and in North Florida this evening)........


I've had rain...thunderstorms....40 MPH winds earlier...since around 3 o'clock...6 hours of rain!!!! Around 2 inches at my house.
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1713. melwerle 2:28 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
In Sav, Ga and BIG cracks of thunder here tonight...out of the blue - no rain, it's dark and you just get floored by it. We usually have some kind of warning. Kind of cool though - dogs aren't appreciating it much but I do.

To fish or not to fish...seems to be the question this evening. Quite interesting to follow although I have learned from a few years watching that I just have to watch and see - too early to tell. (thanks JP, StormW, Nash et al for being so patient.)
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1714. hurricaneguy87 2:28 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I still think she will be a fish. What the hell I am a betting man, I say that's my final call. But regardless, how cool is this to see a full Cape Verde storm on July 5th! It is a good way to get pumped up for this season. Can't wait to see what Aug-Oct hold for us.
1715. weathermanwannabe 2:28 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
1687. IKE 10:20 PM EDT on July 05, 2008 Still around this evening?...Looks like some rain headed your way any minute now...(You know it's Summer when Florida gets T-storms in the evening/overnight hours).....Hey Ike; you just answered my question....
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1716. HadesGodWyvern 2:28 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
hmm doesn't the CIMSS usually note it's weakening when an eye is forming and with the developing eye the system can't measure its intensity correctly until a noteable eye forms?


Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT Weakening Flag : ON
Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF

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1717. CybrTeddy 2:30 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Shes not over the same cold waters as last night, shes in warmer water.
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1718. IKE 2:31 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
1715. weathermanwannabe 9:28 PM CDT on July 05, 2008
1687. IKE 10:20 PM EDT on July 05, 2008 Still around this evening?...Looks like some rain headed your way any minute now...(You know it's Summer when Florida gets T-storms in the evening/overnight hours)


It's moved south of me...I'm north of HWY. 90 by about 2-3 miles...it's over for the evening. FINALLY!
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1719. JLPR 2:32 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
umm
Bertha lost her anticlone
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1720. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 2:32 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
fl weather freak91 shes approaching the threshold temp just to her west according to cimss tc tracker sat map right around 44 45 west is warmer waters
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1721. Drakoen 2:33 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
She is emerging into those warmer oceanic waters and more likely to retain organized convection in doing so.
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1722. HurricaneTeenFL 2:34 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
JLPR -
I think she's just moved out of there on the IR image, while the wind shear layer has not been updated. Note the spin to her east.
1723. kmanislander 2:34 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Hi Keeper and JFV

To answer you JFV, I do not see anything out there that would cause a fundamental track change. Certainly the relatively small burst of convection would not do that. The ridge remains in place and while there may be a wobble in the track from time to time I expect due West to continue for a while.

IR images at night can be illusory. The next few sat frames may suggest a move back to the West. It's the average track that matters
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1724. Drakoen 2:34 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
1719. JLPR 2:32 AM GMT on July 06, 2008
umm
Bertha lost her anticlone


She can build a new one.
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1725. Drakoen 2:35 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
AT 1100 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM BERTHA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 17.0 NORTH...LONGITUDE 41.2
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1726. hurricane23 2:35 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
000
WTNT32 KNHC 060232
TCPAT2
BULLETIN
TROPICAL STORM BERTHA ADVISORY NUMBER 12
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022008
1100 PM AST SAT JUL 05 2008

...BERTHA RACING WESTWARD OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC...

AT 1100 PM AST...0300Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM BERTHA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 17.0 NORTH...LONGITUDE 41.2 WEST OR ABOUT 1140
MILES...1835 KM...WEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS AND ABOUT 1445
MILES...2325 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.

BERTHA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST NEAR 21 MPH...33 KM/HR...AND THIS
GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 50 MPH...85 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 85 MILES...140 KM
FROM THE CENTER.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1000 MB...29.53 INCHES.

REPEATING THE 1100 PM AST POSITION...17.0 N...41.2 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...WEST NEAR 21 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...50 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...1000 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
500 AM AST.

$$
FORECASTER RHOME
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1728. JLPR 2:36 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
what spin the anticlone?
she lost it, she alone now =P
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1729. HurricaneTeenFL 2:36 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
NO!
1731. CATfour 2:37 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
NO!
1732. JLPR 2:37 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I see Bertha remains unchanged in the 11pm update
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yep Drak =)
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1733. catwomen 2:37 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
1538. JFV 9:13 PM EDT on July 05, 2008 I'm still holding my prediction for Bertha to hit somewhere in southeast United States coastline!


So am I JFV. Unless I'm missing something here, according to the 5 day track has Bertha headed towards NC/VA. Unless theirs a trough that would curve her out to sea! I remember Hurricane Floyd was forecasted to be steered out to sea by a trough. Well that trough missed Hurricane Floyd altogether sending him our way here in Virginia. I'm not no expert when it comes to tropical storms. But I have seen storms change track only to strike land. My eye is on Bertha until its a definite that shes going out to sea.
1734. HurricaneTeenFL 2:37 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
JLPR -
I eat my words. My bad!
1736. weathermanwannabe 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
1718. IKE 10:31 PM EDT on July 05, 2008 If that "low" was over water (with the low shear around Florida right now), I'd be looking at it much closer....But, it has remained pretty stationary over South-Central Florida all day and just drawing in pleny of moisture accross the State (pretty impressive ULL with plenty of accompanying convection if you ask me)...
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1737. weathersp 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
I am gonna place the COC at 17.35 N and 41.05 W.....
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1738. IKE 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
She moved...

.3N
.9W

since the earlier advisory.
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1739. HurricaneTeenFL 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
11 PM discussion is out.
1740. thebandman 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
No change in the track. Maybe at 8AM,
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1741. presslord 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
no...
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1743. Relix 2:38 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Wow he's at Lat 17? Considering the wobbles she has to make, she will definitely be passing north of the islands. I sense a SC storm though!
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1744. melwerle 2:39 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Hey Drak - you have mail
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1745. JLPR 2:39 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
nope I dont think so JFV
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1746. kmanislander 2:40 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Well as I just said, IR images at night can be illusory. The convective burst suggested a move to the N whereas the center is actually on the S side of the convection and the track remains due West.

from the update

"latest satellite imagery indicates that Bertha continues to exhibit
a convective bursting pattern with the center currently located
near the south side of the coldest cloud tops."
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1748. hurricaneguy87 2:40 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
NO!!
1751. CATfour 2:41 AM GMT on July 06, 2008    
Like I thought No Change.

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