Dr. Ricky Rood's Climate Change Blog

Quoting iceagecoming:
The low of 53 degrees early Tuesday morning at Palm Beach International Airport set a record for the date, eclipsing the 55 degree mark in 1998. The temperature bottomed out at 58 degrees on the island (Lake Worth Pier), according to the National Weather Service in Miami.

It was 59 in Fort Lauderdale, 60 in Miami and 59 in Naples. There were some even cooler temperatures in the interior and north including 47 at Palmdale, west of Lake Okeechobee; 46 in Fort Pierce and some low- to mid-40s in eastern Collier County.

The record low on Wednesday is 50 degrees in 2005, and with a forecast low temperature of 57, that will probably remain on the books. The normal high is 83 and the normal low is 67.

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Early Easter snow in OZ.

Thanks for the two-week old temperature summary. And since we're on the subject, here's something more current:



Look at that: there have been nearly as many record highs in May alone than there have been record lows for the entire year.

1/118 ratio OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Potentially some bad news for tornadoes and hurricanes with these temperatures in the GOM.....

Quoting Neapolitan:
Look at that: there have been nearly as many record highs in May alone than there have been record lows for the entire year.

Be careful.....You'd hate to confuse them with facts!!

Quoting cyclonebuster:
Simultaneously if we were to keep this PDO graph in the BLUE at -0.5 for lets say 50 years how fast would the Northern Arctic Ice extent return to 1979 levels within that time period along with this AMO graph in the BLUE at -0.1 for lets say 50 years???

The answer to all of your questions is "it wouldn't." It probably would slow down the inevitable destruction of the Arctic Ice Cap, but that destruction isn't very likely to fall within your time constraints.

Quoting Birthmark:

The answer to all of your questions is "it wouldn't." It probably would slow down the inevitable destruction of the Arctic Ice Cap, but that destruction isn't very likely to fall within your time constraints.

So are you saying that keeping SST's at cooler temperatures than at the beginning of the "Industrial Revolution" will not restore the Northern Arctic Ice Cap extent? Is that because of the current GHG levels that will still warm the atmosphere regardless the amount of cooling you do?

Has anyone ever wondered if the man-made islands off the coast of Dubai raised the sea-level any? They dumped an awful lot of boulders in the Ocean!

Quoting overwash12:
Has anyone ever wondered if the man-made islands off the coast of Dubai raised the sea-level any? They dumped an awful lot of boulders in the Ocean!

Actually, these islands were created by pumping sand from the floor of the surrounding waters. Boulders were used only for stabilization . This process may have changed the level of a small lake, buy not the open waters of the sea.

Creating the Palm Islands

Quoting cyclonebuster:


So are you saying that keeping SST's at cooler temperatures than at the beginning of the "Industrial Revolution" will not restore the Northern Arctic Ice Cap extent? Is that because of the current GHG levels that will still warm the atmosphere regardless the amount of cooling you do?

I'm greatly oversimplifying since I'm not a scientist, so anything contained in this post is subject to correction by someone who actually knows what they're talking about. :^D

As I understand the state of things in the Arctic, the ocean is playing some role in the melting. However, air temperature during and albedo change are the primary drivers of the actual melting. Ocean temperature also plays a role, of course, but I don't think that there is enough of a temperature change with negative PDO and AMO to do more than perhaps slow down the melting from beneath the ice.

Again, that's my understanding of the state of the science. It is not the science itself.

Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Actually, these islands were created by pumping sand from the floor of the surrounding waters. Boulders were used only for stabilization . This process may have changed the level of a small lake, buy not the open waters of the sea.

Creating the Palm Islands

Yeah,I watched how they were made. They used boulders as a base,then pumped sand onto them(boulders). Megabucks there!

Quoting overwash12:
Yeah,I watched how they were made. They used boulders as a base,then pumped sand onto them(boulders). Megabucks there!

I thought the whole process was quite interesting. I still wonder how it will hold up under a large storm. Even natural barrier islands take their hits.

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Quoting Birthmark:

I'm greatly oversimplifying since I'm not a scientist, so anything contained in this post is subject to correction by someone who actually knows what they're talking about. :^D

As I understand the state of things in the Arctic, the ocean is playing some role in the melting. However, air temperature during and albedo change are the primary drivers of the actual melting. Ocean temperature also plays a role, of course, but I don't think that there is enough of a temperature change with negative PDO and AMO to do more than perhaps slow down the melting from beneath the ice.

Again, that's my understanding of the state of the science. It is not the science itself.

I tend to agree with you on this. The Albedo effect will allow the ocean waters to retain a great deal of heat during the summer months. And that's my non-scientific opinion.

Quoting Birthmark:

I'm greatly oversimplifying since I'm not a scientist, so anything contained in this post is subject to correction by someone who actually knows what they're talking about. :^D

As I understand the state of things in the Arctic, the ocean is playing some role in the melting. However, air temperature during and albedo change are the primary drivers of the actual melting. Ocean temperature also plays a role, of course, but I don't think that there is enough of a temperature change with negative PDO and AMO to do more than perhaps slow down the melting from beneath the ice.

Again, that's my understanding of the state of the science. It is not the science itself.

Less ice extent means less albedo meaning less light to reflect back out to space which means more dark blue water to absorb more incoming solar radiation in its place which in turn melts more ice. A double whammy occurs in the form of a GHG blanket trapping even more of that solar radiation trying to escape to space and adds to more heating thus melting more ice.

Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


I thought the whole process was quite interesting. I still wonder how it will hold up under a large storm. Even natural barrier islands take their hits.

I believe that these islands will be less vulnerable than natural barrier islands, which are mostly sand islands that have been created by tidal actions. The boulders should prevent extensive erosion much in the way the a seawall protects low lying areas such as Galveston.

Quoting cyclonebuster:


Less ice extent means less albedo meaning less light to reflect back out to space which means more dark blue water to absorb more incoming solar radiation in its place which in turn melts more ice.

Absolutely

Quoting TemplesOfSyrinxC4:
Group That Admitted Manufacturing Global Warming Threat Still Pushes Same Hoax

If that is parody, as I suspect, then it's darn good.

If it's an attempt at an actual assertion it is laughable. AGW has been a concern for actual scientists for decades, one can argue for over a century.

So unless the Club of Rome has a time machine, they are irrelevant. And if they do have a time machine then then they will win regardless of what we do.

It's just a matter of time.

Quoting OldLeatherneck:


I believe that these islands will be less vulnerable than natural barrier islands, which are mostly sand islands that have been created by tidal actions. The boulders should prevent extensive erosion much in the way the a seawall protects low lying areas such as Galveston.

Are you from the area?

Quoting TemplesOfSyrinxC4:
Group That Admitted Manufacturing Global Warming Threat Still Pushes Same Hoax

Club of Rome wants new “system of governance” to enforce eco-fascism
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Thursday, May 10, 2012
http://www.prisonplanet.com/group-that-admitted-m anufacturing-global-warming-threat-still-pushes-sa me-hoax.html


The same secretive organization that admittedly manufactured the global warming threat in 1990 is still pushing the same hoax today, with the Club of Rome issuing an alarmist report predicting a catastrophic rise in temperatures that will decimate the planet.

“Rising carbon dioxide emissions will cause a global average temperature rise of 2 degrees Celsius by 2052 and a 2.8 degree rise by 2080, as governments and markets are unlikely to do enough against climate change, the Club of Rome think tank said,” reports Reuters.

The report, entitled, 2052: A Global Forecast for the Next Forty Years, decries improving living standards in developing countries and warns that man-made climate change could eventually kill off humans entirely.

Although the report has generated a deluge of coverage in the establishment media, not one of those news stories points out that the Club of Rome admittedly manufactured the “idea” of man-made global warming back in 1990.

On page 75 of their 1990 publication entitled The First Global Revolution, the organization outlined how they would manufacture ecological scares in order to manipulate the public into accepting the imposition of a dictatorial world government run by them.
“In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. All these dangers are caused by human intervention… The real enemy, then, is humanity itself,” states the report, which can be read in full at the end of this article.
The passage appears under a sub headline entitled, “The common enemy of humanity is Man.”

The Club of Rome’s 1972 publication The Limits To Growth was a Malthusian blueprint on how the human population needed to be reduced in order to prevent an ecological collapse, which in itself was merely a disguised version of the abhorrent eugenicist ideas that were circulating in the early part of the 20th century and eventually died out with Hitler. The widely discredited population bomb paranoia of the 70′s and 80′s was gradually replaced by the climate change fearmongering that we see the organization pushing today, which again is merely another regurgitation of the eugenics-obsessed policies of the elite.

Prominent members of the Club of Rome include Al Gore and Maurice Strong, both of whom are intimately involved with privately-owned carbon trading groups, whose multi-million dollar profits are solely reliant on protecting the credibility of the man-made global warming dogma.

“We need a system of governance that takes a more long-term view,” said Norwegian academic Jorgen Randers, the chief author of the latest report. “It is unlikely that governments will pass necessary regulation to force the markets to allocate more money into climate friendly solutions, and must not assume that markets will work for the benefit of humankind.”
In other words, Randers is calling for the United Nations to crush the last vestiges of national sovereignty and impose a global carbon tax to line the pockets of scam artists like Al Gore, Maurice Strong and other Club of Rome members who created the hoax in the first place.

Aside from the vested interests, ice core samples continually show how temperature rises precipitate CO2 release. In other words CO2, that evil life-giving gas that trees breathe and humans exhale, is not a primary driver of climate change.
Indeed, global warming alarmists are becoming increasingly desperate to see their “system of governance” implemented given the fact that the science is now proving them to be liars and frauds.
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Like most things from "Prison Planet" and Alex Jones, this type of paranoid gibberish makes no sense when my mind is clear. perhaps I'll get drunk and high this evening and try again.

Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


Are you from the area?

My wife was born and raised and spent most of her life along the Gulf Coast of Texas. Her family lost their summer home, on Bolivar peninsula, during Hurricane Carla in the 60s. We have both seen the damage and destruction caused several years ago by Hurricane Ike. Town of Gilchrest was effectively destroyed.

While I'm not a native Texan, we did decide to retire in the Hill Country, NW of San Antonio. As I write this, we are currently under a Flash Flood Warning.

Quoting Neapolitan:
Like most things from "Prison Planet" and Alex Jones, this type of paranoid gibberish makes no sense when my mind is clear. perhaps I'll get drunk and high this evening and try again.

Any time you read something that tries to link Thomas Malthus, Adolph Hitler and Al Gore in one grand global conspiracy, you know the author has lost all capability of rational, logical thought processes.

Quoting OldLeatherneck:


My wife was born and raised and spent most of her life along the Gulf Coast of Texas. Her family lost their summer home, on Bolivar peninsula, during Hurricane Carla in the 60s. We have both seen the damage and destruction caused several years ago by Hurricane Ike. Town of Gilchrest was effectively destroyed.

While I'm not a native Texan, we did decide to retire in the Hill Country, NW of San Antonio. As I write this, we are currently under a Flash Flood Warning.

I have a brother that is probably just east of you in Wimberly.

Quoting OldLeatherneck:


Any time you read something that tries to link Thomas Malthus, Adolph Hitler and Al Gore in one grand global conspiracy, you know the author has lost all capability of rational, logical thought processes.

That explains that "F" on my senior thesis, I guess. I knew I should have gone with "The Cultural Relevance of Wile E. Coyote.!"

Ah, well, hindsight is 20/20.

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Quoting Birthmark:

That explains that "F" on my senior thesis, I guess. I knew I should have gone with "The Cultural Relevance of Wile E. Coyote.!"

Ah, well, hindsight is 20/20.

If you want to continue your higher education, without having to use critical thinking or written/oral skills for $6 and a few minutes time you can get an advanced degree in Climate Hoax Analysis from the prestigious Limbaugh Institute for the Advancement of Ignorance.

Still down what gives?


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CO2 sure went up last month.

Nathan Myhrvold is onboard the tunnel bandwagon.

Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
CO2 sure went up last month.

Nathan Myhrvold is onboard the tunnel bandwagon.

Sounds like a smart fella does he have a Facebook? I'd like to chat with him..........

Quoting cyclonebuster:


Sounds like a smart fella does he have a Facebook? I'd like to chat with him..........

Nathan Myhrvold was Microsoft's chief technology guru during the late 1980s and 1990s. He started Microsoft Research in 1991.

Mr. Myhrvold wants 1 million tunnels in the ocean. He's been advocating this for several years.

I'm still skeptical about tunnels. But I thought you would like knowing there are others who share your opinion.

I'm going to read more about the Multi-decadal Oscillation so I understand Dr. Rood's blog post better.

Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Nathan Myhrvold was Microsoft's chief technology guru during the late 1980s and 1990s. He started Microsoft Research in 1991.

Mr. Myhrvold wants 1 million tunnels in the ocean. He's been advocating this for several years.

I'm still skeptical about tunnels. But I thought you would like knowing there are others who share your opinion.

Good golly a Million of them???? We only need about 2500 of them in the deep western boundary currents such as the Gulfstream and Kuroshio currents. He needs to chat with me about them..... I don't want to freeze the planet over with them I just want to restore the Northern Arctic Ice with them to what the levels were during pre-industrial revolution times along with Co2 levels at the same time with them. Y'all with me on that??

I guarantee computer models will verify what I say about them is true... Any bets???????????

Quoting dr73wtx:
Not sure about this.

I am.............

Quoting TemplesOfSyrinxC4:
Not so frightening now, is it?

Yeah, I'll sleep better knowing that we're only going to add 120 ppm (or more) extra CO2 to the atmosphere.

"Game over" is right.

Quoting TemplesOfSyrinxC4:
The tar sands oil will be extracted regardless of whether or not Keystone XL is built.

Interesting. I don't think I've ever seen anyone chortle at the prospect of famine, war, and death.

I humbly suggest that your priorities are severely out of whack and need attending to.

Quoting martinitony:
The real deniers

I suppose a gullible person would read the PJ piece and believe everything it says. But a more discerning and thoughtful person would check things out for him- or herself.

The verdict? Author Zubrin is full of it.

To begin with, Alberto Fujimori was not "convicted of genocide" despite Zubrin's breathless use of italics to say as much. I'm no Fujimori apologist; the guy was a neo-liberal (read: arch conservative) authoritarian, and as dirty as they come. But he wasn't convicted of genocide, nor any crimes against humanity; he was, rather, convicted of human rights violations (murder and kidnapping) and corruption. He was implicated in forced sterilizations, but he wasn't convicted.

So, since Zubrin lied in his first couple of paragraphs, only a fool would bother giving any credence to the rest of his nonsensical, anti-environmental, Business uber Alles rant. (Too, Zubrin may want to ask the dopes at Heartland how well went their latest effort to equate those who support climate change theory with sociopathic dictators and mass murderers.)

So: do you have anything scientific to add to the discussion? If so, I'm interested in seeing it.

Quoting TemplesOfSyrinxC4:


LOL at these enviro-malthusian death cultist thugs that want to forcibly sterilize women and bring about an end to the inalienable right.............

While the hand they hold behind their back confuses and conceals the fact that the wolf is at the door

So what is your stance? You've lied on the board, never backed up any claims and run away anytime anyone has challenged you.

Now you seem to be evolving from general global conspiracies to trying to say global warming is a conspiracy.

The only thing I can think of is that you trying to fit in and no one on the scientific / rational side is giving you any time so you are trying to fit in with the denialist nutters.

Or it could be that the conspiracy that us save the world freaks suggest is too well documented and so therefore not as fun speculate on. I mean that big oil has managed to pursuade the stupid and hate-filled (e.g. GOP / Teaparty America or Fox America) that something obviously happening isn't. That isn't a fun conspiracy because it involves real people, real corporations, real facts, unlike your delusions. It's the same reason the Loch Ness monster is fun but blue whales aren't.

Quoting TemplesOfSyrinxC4:


My stance can be summed up that I'm all about conservation and protecting the environment and that it can be achieved without the need for a communist world government smart grid micromanaging every aspect of the plebs' lives from cradle to grave like a Simcity game. I think that contrary to the beliefs of the eco-collectivists that free will of humanity is still a virtue and must be maintained at all costs, if we're living in a world where the omnipresent bureaucrats deciding what schools your child goes to and what their designated career will be and calorie credits deciding what they're allowed to eat, then what kind of is life worth living anyway? My stance is that the right to self-determination that we cherish and individual sovereignty musn't be relinquished in a time of 'crisis' whether real or perceived, from Machiavelli to Plato to Hegel to Rove to Emanuel, history proves time and time again that authoritarians always have the same mindset of "never letting a good crisis go to waste", them using fearmongering and alarmism to further their agendas is to be expected.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that I've ever lied or failed to back up any of my assertions or that I've ever made an attempt to 'fit in' with the monolithic voice of the borg-collective alarmists, say what you will about me, but the one thing you must concede is that I've been consistent from day 1 here as conformorbecastout shining a light on the insidious Agenda 21 cockroaches and any and all forms of collectivism from either end of the omega-shaped political spectrum, look it up- i've been nothing if not consistent in that regard. But it is interesting that you bring that up, because I've noticed that generally that the skeptics are more individual minded that aren't really as concerned about assimilating or fitting in, they all just kind of do their own thing, but the alarmists typically march in lockstep and always plus up all of each others comments like they need that constant reassurance from their tribe,

It seems to me your stance can be summed up as the following: "I prefer to have my world and my life shaped by for-profit entities, as I believe such entities will always do better at protecting me and sheltering me than any government possibly could or would. Therefore, I denounce and deny any and all logic and scientific fact that runs counter to that belief."

Still not answering, cricket:


1. Start with yuor claim about an acid trip. Yes / No, what is it today?

2. Then go through all your absurd claims about world government, etc.. You are cutting and pasting stuff and ignoring anyone who claims different. Witness your claims about Italy which you ran away from when challenged. add to that the fact that there are many much more efficient mechanisms for all the conspiracies that you claim: greed, good will, stupidity, etc.

3. You ignore all the claims about big oil, patriot act, or other power grabs and focus on some mythical conservationist conspiracy.

4. You are now claiming a global warming conspiracy. Yet you don't explain any of the global warming data. what is your position: is it happening or not?

5. If it is happening, you should realize that conservationists are trying to keep the world free. If it goes to crisis, it won't be a bunch of academics and hippies running the world, it will be either people like dick cheney or it will be anarchy. If you have never expereinced anarchy, go to Haiti and live in the slums for a while. I guarantee you will br crying for a government that tells you what school to send your kid to.

6. All your furturism is shite. Simply it is. If you want to seriously debate furutism. then fine. But don't throw around a bunch of references to big names. Do it with simple words, clarity and honesty.

Personally, I don't think you have any integrity and are scared to actually try to develop real scenarios. As i said, debating the Loch Ness monster is much more fun for some people than trying to save the whales.