Area forecast discussion National Weather Service Grand Forks ND 1251 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 Update... issued at 1239 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 Cumulus field developed over solar areas as expected but beginning to thin out some allowing for more middle/late afternoon sun. Based on current trends raised maximum temperatures a few degrees most areas. Exception is over northwest forecast area where stratus has been slow to lift and need to lower maximum values a few degrees there. Otherwise a few adjustments to cloud cover and rest is good. Update issued at 943 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 Minimal changes for this update. Some clearing across southeast ND as far east as southern valley however with convective temperatures in the middle 60s and a shallow moist layer will likely see cumulus to some degree develop. Otherwise St and fog across northwest forecast area beginning to lift. Overall expect pc-mcldy skies today. Temperatures on track so no changes. Update issued at 641 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 Added a patchy fog mention across the Devils Lake area this morning as a few locations are reported some reduced visibilities mostly 4 to 6 miles with the exception of Langdon which is down to one mile. Good mixing will make for a short duration this morning. No other changes this morning to todays forecast. && Short term...(today through sunday) issued at 345 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 Challenge today will be temperatures and clouds with convection tonight. Models in fair agreement with the short term and used a blend for this forecast. Persistent southwest flow through the forecast period will keep active shower...tstorm pattern continuing. Challenge with the short wave energies will be placement and the time of day with potential to tap a more unstable airmass if wave passage coincides with peak heating. Currently moderate warm air advection likely still producing scattered shower activity across Minnesota lakes and trees though radar trend shows decreasing coverage may just be artifact of overshooting as the echos drift farther from the kmvx radar. 295k isentropic surface forecast shows the movement of the saturated layer aligned with the radar echos. Weak ascent wanes by late morning and have slight chance probability of precipitation ending at 18z. Attention then turns to the west where the next round of convection will struggle eastward from central ND. Showalters stay positive for much of the night County warning forecast area wide. Kept any pop mention to the SW half of the County warning forecast area through Sunday 12z...though think even less of the area will see shower activity...with the shower chances slowing moving east Sunday afternoon. Long term...(sunday night through friday) issued at 345 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 Sunday night to Monday night...increasing probability of precipitation into the likely category across the southern Red River with combination of 500mb shortwave energy atop 850mb convergence. 00z Gem and GFS a bit faster and a touch farther north than 00z European model (ecmwf) but fairly similar signals for the area. Negative showalters with 200 to 400 j/kg of mu cape expected as surface low tracks across the southern County warning forecast area Monday morning. Convection will continue to move to the east northeast and amount of temperature recovery will depend on speed of shortwave and subsidence in its wake. Highs in the 60s where the clouds linger the longest and 70s in the west most likely. Tuesday-Friday...models in good agreement indicating southwest flow aloft and then an upper low closing off somewhere in the vicinity of the forecast area toward the end of the period. This is an active pattern...not that dissimilar from the last heavy rain event. There are still a lot of details with low confidence (like where the upper low closes off...and how quickly it then propagates to the east)...but this will be something to keep a close eye on. && Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Sunday afternoon) issued at 1239 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 IFR ceilings have lifted out of kdvl...eastward progress has been limited to kgfk and brief period of MVFR there. Looking at low VFR ceilings through this taf period as main moisture stays well west of region for the time being. Gusty wind character should abate by sunset...as direction stays southeast everywhere. Not much if any precipitation expected through Sunday morning...reflected in dry tafs. && Hydrology... issued at 1240 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 All tributaries to the Red River are falling across the forecast area. The exception is the Buffalo River at Dilworth which is nearing its forecast crest of 12.8 feet. On the main Stem of the Red River...the river is steady or falling in the southern part of the valley. And in the northern valley...the Red River is rising as a respectable amount of water continues to flow into the mainstem red. Oslo is nearing its crest of 26.0 feet... Drayton is forecast to crest Tuesday morning...and Pembina is forecast to crest next Thursday morning. River flood warnings were cancelled for the South Branch Buffalo River at Sabin and the Pembina river at Neche. River flood warnings remain in effect at Pembina...Drayton and Oslo on the mainstem red...as well as Hallock...Grafton and Dilworth. Areal flood warnings remain in effect for Pembina...Walsh...and eastern Cavalier counties and will likely be extended this afternoon due to overland flooding. Water levels across this area should gradually decrease over the next few days with modest additional rainfall anticipated. A Flash Flood Watch remains in effect through Sunday afternoon for areas downstream of the Renwick dam on The Tongue river. Water remains very high at the dam site and is being held back by a constructed earthen levee on top of the dam structure. At this time...officials note the temporary levee on top of the Renwick dam remains stable and will still be monitored. Otherwise...Lake Renwick has been slowly receding the last couple of days. && Fgf watches/warnings/advisories... ND...Flash Flood Watch through Sunday afternoon for ndz008. Minnesota...none. && $$ Update...voelker short term...jk long term...tg aviation...wjb hydrology...Rogers