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Area forecast discussion 
National Weather Service Grand Forks ND 
1251 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Update... 
issued at 1239 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Cumulus field developed over solar areas as expected but beginning to 
thin out some allowing for more middle/late afternoon sun. Based 
on current trends raised maximum temperatures a few degrees most areas. 
Exception is over northwest forecast area where stratus has been slow to lift and 
need to lower maximum values a few degrees there. Otherwise a few 
adjustments to cloud cover and rest is good. 


Update issued at 943 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Minimal changes for this update. Some clearing across southeast ND as far 
east as southern valley however with convective temperatures in 
the middle 60s and a shallow moist layer will likely see cumulus to some 
degree develop. Otherwise St and fog across northwest forecast area beginning to 
lift. Overall expect pc-mcldy skies today. Temperatures on track 
so no changes. 


Update issued at 641 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Added a patchy fog mention across the Devils Lake area this 
morning as a few locations are reported some reduced visibilities 
mostly 4 to 6 miles with the exception of Langdon which is down to 
one mile. Good mixing will make for a short duration this morning. 
No other changes this morning to todays forecast. 


&& 


Short term...(today through sunday) 
issued at 345 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Challenge today will be temperatures and clouds with convection tonight. 
Models in fair agreement with the short term and used a blend for 
this forecast. Persistent southwest flow through the forecast 
period will keep active shower...tstorm pattern continuing. 
Challenge with the short wave energies will be placement and the 
time of day with potential to tap a more unstable airmass if wave 
passage coincides with peak heating. 


Currently moderate warm air advection likely still producing 
scattered shower activity across Minnesota lakes and trees though 
radar trend shows decreasing coverage may just be artifact of 
overshooting as the echos drift farther from the kmvx radar. 
295k isentropic surface forecast shows the movement of the saturated 
layer aligned with the radar echos. Weak ascent wanes by late 
morning and have slight chance probability of precipitation ending at 18z. 


Attention then turns to the west where the next round of convection 
will struggle eastward from central ND. Showalters stay positive 
for much of the night County warning forecast area wide. Kept any pop mention to the SW 
half of the County warning forecast area through Sunday 12z...though think even less of 
the area will see shower activity...with the shower chances slowing 
moving east Sunday afternoon. 


Long term...(sunday night through friday) 
issued at 345 am CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Sunday night to Monday night...increasing probability of precipitation into the likely 
category across the southern Red River with combination of 500mb 
shortwave energy atop 850mb convergence. 00z Gem and GFS a bit 
faster and a touch farther north than 00z European model (ecmwf) but fairly similar 
signals for the area. Negative showalters with 200 to 400 j/kg of mu 
cape expected as surface low tracks across the southern County warning forecast area Monday 
morning. Convection will continue to move to the east northeast 
and amount of temperature recovery will depend on speed of shortwave and 
subsidence in its wake. Highs in the 60s where the clouds linger 
the longest and 70s in the west most likely. 


Tuesday-Friday...models in good agreement indicating southwest flow 
aloft and then an upper low closing off somewhere in the vicinity of 
the forecast area toward the end of the period. This is an active pattern...not 
that dissimilar from the last heavy rain event. There are still a 
lot of details with low confidence (like where the upper low closes 
off...and how quickly it then propagates to the east)...but this 
will be something to keep a close eye on. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Sunday afternoon) 
issued at 1239 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


IFR ceilings have lifted out of kdvl...eastward progress has been limited 
to kgfk and brief period of MVFR there. Looking at low VFR ceilings 
through this taf period as main moisture stays well west of region 
for the time being. Gusty wind character should abate by sunset...as 
direction stays southeast everywhere. Not much if any precipitation 
expected through Sunday morning...reflected in dry tafs. 


&& 


Hydrology... 
issued at 1240 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


All tributaries to the Red River are falling across the forecast 
area. The exception is the Buffalo River at Dilworth which is 
nearing its forecast crest of 12.8 feet. 


On the main Stem of the Red River...the river is steady or falling 
in the southern part of the valley. And in the northern valley...the 
Red River is rising as a respectable amount of water continues to 
flow into the mainstem red. Oslo is nearing its crest of 26.0 feet... 
Drayton is forecast to crest Tuesday morning...and Pembina is 
forecast to crest next Thursday morning. 


River flood warnings were cancelled for the South Branch Buffalo 
River at Sabin and the Pembina river at Neche. River flood warnings 
remain in effect at Pembina...Drayton and Oslo on the mainstem 
red...as well as Hallock...Grafton and Dilworth. 


Areal flood warnings remain in effect for Pembina...Walsh...and 
eastern Cavalier counties and will likely be extended this afternoon 
due to overland flooding. Water levels across this area should 
gradually decrease over the next few days with modest additional 
rainfall anticipated. 


A Flash Flood Watch remains in effect through Sunday afternoon for 
areas downstream of the Renwick dam on The Tongue river. Water 
remains very high at the dam site and is being held back by a 
constructed earthen levee on top of the dam structure. At this 
time...officials note the temporary levee on top of the Renwick dam 
remains stable and will still be monitored. Otherwise...Lake Renwick 
has been slowly receding the last couple of days. 


&& 


Fgf watches/warnings/advisories... 
ND...Flash Flood Watch through Sunday afternoon for ndz008. 


Minnesota...none. 
&& 


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Update...voelker 
short term...jk 
long term...tg 
aviation...wjb 
hydrology...Rogers