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Area forecast discussion...corrected 
National Weather Service Hastings NE 
426 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


..sct severe thunderstorms to erupt in the next 3-6 hours with potential 
for excessive rainfall into tonight... 


Short term...(this evening through sunday) 
issued at 426 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Corrected typos. 


The remnants of last night/S mesoscale convective system was exiting MO into Illinois. The rain- 
cooled air and associated differential heating put the effective 
warm front from central Missouri northwest into eastern neb/SD. Strong heating 
over S-central Nebraska has resulted in the loss of an apparent thermal 
boundary. However...surface observation do show a pressure trough oriented west-northwest-east-southeast 
across southern Nebraska. 20z msas also indicated pressure falls along this 
trough. The strongest confluence was north-NE of the Tri-Cities...where 
satellite shows extensive cumulus. 


Present indications are that thunderstorms could erupt in that confluence 
zone as the cap erodes. We/ve noted surface dewpoints are in the middle-upper 60s 
due to the extensive rainfall last night. This was resulting in MLCAPE 
of 3000-4000 j/kg. 


Elsewhere...multiple models /including the hrrr/ develop thunderstorms 
within the Lee trough over western Nebraska/eastern Colorado/northwest Kansas. These storms head east. 
Not sure if they remain scattered in nature or grow upscale with Theta-E 
advection and convergence at the nose of the low level jet. 


The mesoscale convective vortex we referenced in earlier afd/S was moving into NE Kansas and 
will not be a player in our forecast. 


Heavy rain: models are not giving the same signals as last night. For 
what it/S Worth...the general indication is that the heaviest 
rainfall/mesoscale convective system activity will be over the northern half of Nebraska or even South Dakota 
into IA/MO. However...we still have an intensifying low level jet tonight...with 
its nose in vicinity of I-80. Plus the upper-level ridge is overhead. 


Satellite-derived precipitable water shows a plume of subtropical moisture extending north 
from the Caribbean into the Central Plains. Lbf/oax/top 12z soundings 
were all 150-170% of normal. Any clustering of thunderstorms will threaten 
flash flooding...especially here heavy rain occurred last night. 


Flash flood watch: it was contemplated but decided not to issue for 
now. A swath of 2-3" /isolated 4"/ occurred from Sherman-Hall- 
Hamilton-Clay-Thayer counties. Just too much uncertainty. No 
guarantees it occurs in the same area again tonight or that rfall is as 
heavy. 


Severe: given that magnitude of the instability...excessively large 
hail and wind damage are possible...especially before 9 PM. 
Cannot rule out a tornado if storms do indeed develop north and east of 
the Tri-Cities. Local heights are lowest there. 


Sun: probably a repeat of today. Any leftover rain departs early. 
Then becoming p/cloudy. Dry most of the day. Then thunderstorm redevelopment 
with threat of severe again late. 


Long term...(sunday night through saturday) 
issued at 337 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Primary concern will 
be off and on chances for thunderstorms...along with high 
temperatures each day. 


Starting with the big picture in the upper levels of the 
atmosphere...there should be a low amplitude long-wave trough over 
the western half of the country...with ridging over the Missouri to 
Ohio River...and a closed low over the far northeast Atlantic 
Seaboard. At the surface...an area of low pressure is prognosticated to be 
situated over the Kansas/Colorado border with another one over eastern Wyoming. 
Should be a warm front draped east to west with the question 
being...is it sitting across our County Warning Area or a little bit further north. 


As the week rolls along...the upper level trough over the west 
amplifies a bit and moves just a little to the east. By middle week the 
eastern half of the U.S. Should see minor ridging. For our 
area...this pattern should allow various middle level disturbances to 
rotate through...giving US enough forcing to trigger thunderstorms. 
The GFS and the ec models are in basic agreement by the end of the 
workweek in taking the western trough...closing it off...and pushing 
it northwest into the northern plains. This will also drag a cold 
front across the area which will be another focusing mechanism for 
thunderstorms. 


Difficulties in trying to pinpoint where and when thunderstorms may 
erupt result from several factors including...the timing of the 
aforementioned short wave troughs...locations of any synoptic scale 
front...and location of any mesoscale boundaries laid out from the 
previous days convection...available moisture...any low level jet 
development and its location. Primary factors in possible severe 
include...degree of instability due to surface heating...deep layer 
shear...along with any capping inversion. 


Checking the factors above for Sunday evening...difficult to say if 
we are going to see any middle level support with an approaching short 
wave as models all over the place. Should be warm front in place 
although location could range from Kansas/NE border to well north of 
there. Of course any convection tonight could generate outflow 
boundary that may hang around. Precipitable water values have been 
well above the average and expected to remain that way for several 
days. 12z NAM Cranks up the low level jet sun evening with best 
convergence just north of the Kansas/NE state line at 00z...while GFS 
run places better convergence associated with jet well north or east 
of the County Warning Area at the same time. As far as severe weather GOES...decent 
instability should linger a while into the evening while 0-6 km bulk 
shear looks to be between 40 and 50 knots. So if we can get convection 
to fire...there is a good chance of seeing some severe weather. 


Worked through the same process for Monday/Monday night and Tuesday/Tuesday night 
and assigned probability of precipitation accordingly. Starting Wednesday...we have to deal with 
a new set of issues as the main low finally kicks out of the west. 
Will it stay the course with the current predicted track...which is 
to keep the middle level low pressure center a little north of our 
County Warning Area...or will it change solutions. This will help dictate heavy rain 
potential vs straight severe for Wednesday and Thursday. Would like to get 
a look at a few more runs before making that call. 


One other note that I forgot to mention above. While thunderstorms 
wont be impossible during the daytime...this kind of set up usually 
gives US the best chance for rain during the overnight hours. 
Previous forecast took this track and I see no reason to change. 


Temperatures have climbed to the lower to middle 80 this afternoon and 
see no reason they should not hit similar values the next few 
days...before cooling off just a tad by next weekend as the upper 
low moves past and we get into the wrap around flow. 


&& 


Aviation...(for the 18z tafs through 18z Sunday afternoon) 
issued at 1244 PM CDT Sat may 25 2013 


Uncertainty is above average due to thunderstorm potential. 


This aftn: VFR with a slight chance of an IFR thunderstorm after 21z. South-southeast winds 
will gust to around 22 kts. 


Tngt: VFR much of the night but there is a slight chance of a thunderstorm. Just 
cannot pinpoint it at this time. Gustiness of south-southeast winds will diminish 
around sunset...but there could be some occasional gusts to near 
20 kts. 


Sun through 18z: VFR. South-southeast winds gust up to 25 kts. 


Ceiling confidence: medium 
visibility confidence: medium 
wind confidence: high except near thunderstorms 
weather confidence: low due to thunderstorm potential 




&& 


Gid watches/warnings/advisories... 
NE...none. 
Kansas...none. 
&& 


$$ 


Short term...halblaub 
long term...ewald 
aviation...halblaub