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High wind shear ripping into 97L
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2009 +2
A strong tropical wave (97L) a few hundred miles east of Barbados in the Lesser Antilles Islands has grown less organized today as it tracks west at 15 - 20 mph. The wave is moving underneath an upper-level trough of low pressure, which is bringing 30 knots of wind shear to 97L. While there is a respectable amount of heavy thunderstorm activity associated with 97L, there is no longer any low-level spiral banding or rotation of the cloud pattern. This morning's QuikSCAT pass at 5:35 am EDT showed sustained winds of 35 mph a few hundred miles east of Barbados, but there was no surface circulation evident. The islands of Barbados, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, St. Lucia, and Martinique can expect heavy rain and wind gusts to 50 mph as 97L moves through the Lesser Antilles Islands this afternoon and tonight, but 97L will not become a tropical depression.

Wind shear along the path of 97L is forecast to remain in the high 25 - 35 knot range for at least the next three days. This should prevent further development of 97L, and I expect the disturbance will be gradually torn apart during the next few days. The National Hurricane Center gives 97L a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours. None of the computer models are forecasting any tropical storm development over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L.

I'll have an update Tuesday morning. As 97L moves through the islands, you may want to follow local observations there using our wundermap for the region.

Jeff Masters
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1651. canesrule1 11:38 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting hydrus:
LMAO
Quoting hydrus:
LMAO
have you never heard ROFLMAO.
1652. BurnedAfterPosting 11:38 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
We actually did have a 95L for about 12 hours...but they skipped 96L


where was 95L
1653. IKE 11:38 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT MON JUL 20 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A TROPICAL WAVE IN THE VICINITY OF THE LESSER ANTILLES IS PRODUCING
DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE
EXPECTED TO REMAIN UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM FOR
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY
RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS WILL AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE LESSER ANTILLES
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS THE WAVE MOVES WESTWARD AT 15 TO 20
MPH INTO THE CARIBBEAN SEA. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN/PASCH
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1654. extreme236 11:39 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Where was 95L?


It was that non-tropical low pressure system SW of the Azores a couple weeks ago.
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1655. Orcasystems 11:39 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
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1656. extreme236 11:40 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
This was 95L:

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT JUL 4 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED THIS MORNING IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
NON-TROPICAL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 800 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF THE AZORES. HOWEVER...UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN
UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM AS IT MOVES EASTWARD
NEAR 10 MPH TOWARD COOLER WATERS. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS
THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

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1657. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:40 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
yellow it will be
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1660. IKE 11:41 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT MON JUL 20 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A TROPICAL WAVE IN THE VICINITY OF THE LESSER ANTILLES IS PRODUCING
DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE
EXPECTED TO REMAIN UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM FOR
THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY
RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS WILL AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE LESSER ANTILLES
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS THE WAVE MOVES WESTWARD AT 15 TO 20
MPH INTO THE CARIBBEAN SEA. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30
PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER KIMBERLAIN/PASCH


Copy and paste....a real yawner.....



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1661. BurnedAfterPosting 11:41 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


It was that non-tropical low pressure system SW of the Azores a couple weeks ago.


that was 94L

90L was the area in the Gulf
91L became TD #1
92L was the subtropical system in the NE Atlantic in the beginning of June
93L was the infamous area in the SW Caribbean
94L was another non tropical system in the North Atlantic
1662. kmanhurricaneman 11:41 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
D.
IT DEAD,dead ,dead ,etc etc ,etc, etc
hostile enviroment
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1664. BurnedAfterPosting 11:42 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
This was 95L:

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT JUL 4 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED THIS MORNING IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
NON-TROPICAL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 800 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF THE AZORES. HOWEVER...UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN
UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM AS IT MOVES EASTWARD
NEAR 10 MPH TOWARD COOLER WATERS. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS
THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.



that was 94L not 95L
1666. nrtiwlnvragn 11:42 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
We actually did have a 95L for about 12 hours...but they skipped 96L


You are saying you think they should have designated, but they did not. There has not been a 95L this year.
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1667. hurricanemaniac123 11:42 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
This was 95L:

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT SAT JUL 4 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED THIS MORNING IN ASSOCIATION WITH A
NON-TROPICAL AREA OF LOW PRESSURE LOCATED ABOUT 800 MILES SOUTHWEST
OF THE AZORES. HOWEVER...UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN
UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM AS IT MOVES EASTWARD
NEAR 10 MPH TOWARD COOLER WATERS. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS
THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.



Actually, it was 94L. 95L and 96L are yet to exist this season (however the carolinas wave, the bahamas wave, and the east atlantic waves could become one of them).
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1668. extreme236 11:42 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


that was 94L

90L was the are in the Gulf
91L became TD #1
92L was the subtropical system in the NE Atlantic in the beginning of June
93L was the infamous area in the SW Caribbean
94L was another non tropical system in the North Atlantic


Hmmm you may be right...couldve sworn i remember a 95L
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1669. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Nah....97L picked up a blackhead cruising through the islands.....pop....
its even shear enduced convection wont be much but heavy local rain with a little wind
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1670. BurnedAfterPosting 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:


Hmmm you may be right...couldve sworn i remember a 95L


maybe 95E? lol
1671. CaneWarning 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Ana called, she wanted me to pass along the following message:

"See you in August!"
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1672. canesrule1 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting help4u:
Nothing going to develop next 4 to 6 weeks.Shear,ull,tutt,cold temperatures,dust,el nino,and more.Season is dead.
could not agree more!
1673. IKE 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting kmanhurricaneman:
D.
IT DEAD,dead ,dead ,etc etc ,etc, etc
hostile enviroment


Remember the wave that was ahead of it? Look where the convection is at now...Bahamas, northward.

With another front/trough, coming down this weekend, 97L should do what the previous blob did and wind up near the Bahamas.
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1674. Cavin Rawlins 11:44 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
94L was the last invest before 97L, The error may have came from the fact that they continued from 96E in the EPAC.

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1675. BurnedAfterPosting 11:44 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
dont post people that are on most peoples ignore list canes
1676. BurnedAfterPosting 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting IKE:


Remember the wave that was ahead of it? Look where the convection is at now...Bahamas, northward.

With another front/trough, coming down this weekend, 97L should do what the previous blob did and wind up near the Bahamas.


and that is where development is likely to happen
1677. IKE 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:
Ana called, she wanted me to pass along the following message:

"See you in August!"


I think you'll be right.

Clock is ticking...11 days left in July.
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1678. kmanhurricaneman 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
ever heard of c.y.a!
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1679. LiveFromTheCarolinas 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting StormW:
On until dinner is ready in about 15.



A) Meat Balls
B) Chicken Croquettes with mashed potatos and cream sauce
C) Pot Pie
1680. stormsurge39 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Is there another intense shear after 24 hours if it forms again?
1681. stormwatcherCI 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
I still don't think 97L is ready to give up the ghost yet. Strong feeling development might occur in the Caribbean.
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1682. hydrus 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:
97L looks like a rooster that had just took a good beating, let's see if it can make a comeback.
LOL.I saw a dragon eat Jamaica once,wish I had that sat pic today,what a sight.
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1683. GeoffreyWPB 11:47 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
I thought Ana in July also...oh well, won't be the first time I was wrong in here!!!
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1685. IKE 11:47 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


and that is where development is likely to happen


I agree, if it does happen it will be there. It will not be in the eastern Caribbean.

The John Hope rule applies...if it hasn't developed by the eastern Caribbean, it won't until the western Caribbean...

97L won't even make it to the western Caribbean. Bahamian area....
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1686. Tazmanian 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
DIE 97L die
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1687. Cavin Rawlins 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Development for July is sitll a good shot, considering we may have 98L this week, based what the models are saying.
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1688. canesrule1 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:
dont post people that are on most peoples ignore list canes
really? i've never heard of him.
1689. futuremet 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
DIE 97L die


That is the problem, it won't die, and it won't develop, just a nuisance.
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1690. BenBIogger 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting Acemmett90:
well on to next one


Just some flare ups from the ITCZ.

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1692. WaterWitch11 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
@ Patrap & Weather456

Question;

Does the speed of a system make any difference concerning the amount of shear it can take?

thanks
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1693. K8eCane 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
DIE 97L die


i agree with ya taz
its like a bad toothache
IT WONT GO AWAY!
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1694. Tazmanian 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
my hurricane forcast calls for 1 name storm
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1695. lakeEFX 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
The heck with the tropics- it looks like that dreadful low pressure system is gonna setup over the Great Lakes for this weekend again. [did it ever go away?]
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1697. canesrule1 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
DIE 97L die
agreed
1698. weatherwatcher12 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting BenBIogger:


Just some flare ups from the ITCZ.


No, that wave came off of africa
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1699. Tazmanian 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
may be i take a gune and shot 97L too dath
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1700. BenBIogger 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Quoting Tazmanian:
my hurricane forcast calls for 1 name storm


lol
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1701. stormsurge39 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2009    
Is 97 on death row even if it comes back overnight and tommorrow? please tell me why!!

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