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High wind shear ripping into 97L
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2009 +2
A strong tropical wave (97L) a few hundred miles east of Barbados in the Lesser Antilles Islands has grown less organized today as it tracks west at 15 - 20 mph. The wave is moving underneath an upper-level trough of low pressure, which is bringing 30 knots of wind shear to 97L. While there is a respectable amount of heavy thunderstorm activity associated with 97L, there is no longer any low-level spiral banding or rotation of the cloud pattern. This morning's QuikSCAT pass at 5:35 am EDT showed sustained winds of 35 mph a few hundred miles east of Barbados, but there was no surface circulation evident. The islands of Barbados, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, St. Lucia, and Martinique can expect heavy rain and wind gusts to 50 mph as 97L moves through the Lesser Antilles Islands this afternoon and tonight, but 97L will not become a tropical depression.

Wind shear along the path of 97L is forecast to remain in the high 25 - 35 knot range for at least the next three days. This should prevent further development of 97L, and I expect the disturbance will be gradually torn apart during the next few days. The National Hurricane Center gives 97L a low (less than 30% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next 48 hours. None of the computer models are forecasting any tropical storm development over the next seven days.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of African wave 97L.

I'll have an update Tuesday morning. As 97L moves through the islands, you may want to follow local observations there using our wundermap for the region.

Jeff Masters
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2401. sebastianflorida 11:55 AM GMT on July 21, 2009    
I look to thee, I count all three
One is wee, 2 why can't we, three something could be
I ask myself, will there be
I tell myself, not out of these three
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2403. IKE 11:58 AM GMT on July 21, 2009    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT TUE JUL 21 2009

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY HAS INCREASED THIS MORNING IN ASSOCIATION WITH
A TROPICAL WAVE OVER THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA. HOWEVER...UPPER-
LEVEL WINDS REMAIN UNFAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM AT
THIS TIME. REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND
GUSTY WINDS WILL AFFECT PORTIONS OF THE LESSER ANTILLES...THE
VIRGIN ISLANDS...AND PUERTO RICO TODAY AS THE WAVE MOVES WEST-
NORTHWESTWARD AT 15 TO 20 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN
30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS HAVE BECOME MORE CONCENTRATED NEAR THE
NORTHERN BAHAMA ISLANDS THIS MORNING. HOWEVER...SURFACE PRESSURES
IN THE AREA ARE HIGH...AND THERE ARE NO SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION.
THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...LESS THAN 30 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM
BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BEVEN
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2404. TheCaneWhisperer 11:59 AM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting IKE:



It wants to be IKE, lol. I hear the rocky theme in the background.
2405. TheCaneWhisperer 12:03 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Beven was a little more loose on the upper level wind forecast this morning.
2406. crownwx 12:04 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Crown Weather Tropical Weather Discussion:
Link

Crown Weather Tropical Weather Page:
Link
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2407. sebastianflorida 12:04 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Back to two yellows @ 8 A.M.
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2408. IKE 12:05 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
That SN that was putting the extra yellow-circle on here yesterday was pretty close as to where it wound up at.....


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2409. WxLogic 12:08 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Upware MJO starting to show up towards the end of this week...

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2410. IKE 12:09 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
97L is under 40 knots of shear which will give it no chance of developing. I'll guess the convection wanes this afternoon......

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2411. victoria780 12:08 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Ohh the year of 2005 every blob tuned into a tropical system,now its the sst too cold,saharan dust,la nina,shear upper winds,too close to the itcz etc etc...Must have had ideal conditions back then..
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2412. weathermanwannabe 12:11 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting sebastianflorida:
Back to two yellows @ 8 A.M.


Yup (gives some on here "hope" and something to discuss) but ain't nothing happening unless the sheer drops..... :)
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2413. KEHCharleston 12:14 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
General lower barometric in the region, so this may not translate into a significant indication of 97L. But this buoy showed a bit more lowering BP and some gusts. Is the elevation of BP in the latest readings just the daily flux of up and down.? Probably

Buoy Station 42060
East Caribbean
16.500 N 63.500 W (16°30'0" N 63°30'0" W)63%uFFFD30'0" W)
Winds from the east

Click over graphic to go to 42060



Second invest... hmmm. That is about where my dream of few nights ago put Ana. Good thing that I am not precognitive - In the dream the storm moved quite rapidly -Woke me up about the time, I realized that I did not quite have my storm supplies together.

EDITED: To correct mouse over link.
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2414. nrtiwlnvragn 12:14 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
97L is under 40 knots of shear which will give it no chance of developing. I'll guess the convection wanes this afternoon......



I wouldn't expect any development until it gets into the Bahamas in 2-3 days. It is maintaining it's lower level, San Juan Radar
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2415. canesrule1 12:16 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
i am examining 97L and convection has come back after last night naked swirl, pressure continues to drop, and it is becoming more coupled but here is the problem it's going into a lot of shear and one thing i've noticed about 97L is that it can't keep its convection for over 24 hours, thus meaning its inconsistent or not well developed and that i think why is the reason the NHC has not upgraded this system from the yellow circle.
2416. weathermanwannabe 12:18 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting nrtiwlnvragn:


I wouldn't expect any development until it gets into the Bahamas in 2-3 days. It is maintaining it's lower level, San Juan Radar


Forgot about that Doppler location....Thanks for the link.....(we need some kind of agreement with Cuba for a readily aaccessible doppler site over there....The next adjacent ones are Miami and Key West)
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2417. IKE 12:21 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Most common sayings on the blog in the 2009 Atlantic season, so far....

(1)What is DMAX?
(2)What is DMIN?
(3)I never RIP-ed it!
(4)Convection is firing up.
(5)Convection is going away.
(6)Season is a bust.
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2418. msphar 12:21 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Some rain in Salinas, Aguirre, and Guayama but none seen in Humacao, or Ceiba. Storm off shore to the South moving NW. Hiho Silver and away with you, devil incarnate, now back to bed.
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2419. gator23 12:23 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
any thoughts about AOI 2 in the Bahamas? or are we just ignoring the bugger?
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2420. IKE 12:23 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Looks like most of the heavier precip will stay south of PR. I get the feeling this blob/97L, will wind up over Haiti and DR which is almost always problematic.
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2421. weathermanwannabe 12:24 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
i am examining 97L and convection has come back after last night naked swirl, pressure continues to drop, and it is becoming more coupled but here is the problem it's going into a lot of shear and one thing i've noticed about 97L is that it can't keep its convection for over 24 hours, thus meaning its inconsistent or not well developed and that i think why is the reason the NHC has not upgraded this system from the yellow circle.


Nice to see you looking a little "deeper" into the "whys" of what is happening which is the whole purpose of the Blog; If I recall two days ago, you were worried about a model track towards Miami and I told you to chill and have your season supplies for when/if a storm threatens in the future....Did you get your Hurricane kit ready yet?..... :)
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2422. gator23 12:24 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Most common sayings on the blog in the 2009 Atlantic season, so far....

(1)What is DMAX?
(2)What is DMIN?
(3)I never RIP-ed it!
(4)Convection is firing up.
(5)Convection is going away.
(6)Season is a bust.

you forgot
(7) Why did the NHC get it so wrong?
(8) How come they havent named this yet
(9) Shut up JFV
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2423. WxLogic 12:25 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Looks like most of the heavier precip will stay south of PR. I get the feeling this blob/97L, will wind up over Haiti and DR which is almost always problematic.


Correct... I'm still hoping the shear will be strong enough to push the majority of the deep convection south of DR or at least keep it in the coastal areas.

The problem will be if the convection gets to the mountainous area of Central DR since it is here where all the problems starts.
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2424. nrtiwlnvragn 12:26 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


Forgot about that Doppler location....Thanks for the link.....(we need some kind of agreement with Cuba for a readily aaccessible doppler site over there....The next adjacent ones are Miami and Key West)


Cuba Radar Page
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2426. KEHCharleston 12:27 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting gator23:
any thoughts about AOI 2 in the Bahamas? or are we just ignoring the bugger?
I am ignoring - at least until a floater is active, and I have had a second cup of coffee. Not sure if the former will happen before I head off to work.
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2427. all4hurricanes 12:27 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
97L is still strengthening according to the coordinates. it's at 1009mb the lowest yet
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2428. all4hurricanes 12:29 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting gator23:

you forgot
(7) Why did the NHC get it so wrong?
(8) How come they havent named this yet
(9) Shut up JFV

don't forget "most common things said on the blog"
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2429. GeoffreyWPB 12:30 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Hmmm..something's going on. 97 is off the Navy page.
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2430. MahFL 12:30 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Cuba has radars available, sometimes slow to load and sometimes down.

Cuba radar
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2431. canesrule1 12:30 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


Nice to see you looking a little "deeper" into the "whys" of what is happening which is the whole purpose of the Blog; If I recall two days ago, you were worried about a model track towards Miami and I told you to chill and have your season supplies for when/if a storm threatens in the future....Did you get your Hurricane kit ready yet?..... :)
yes all my hurricane supplies are ready, anyways if 97L does make it to miami it won't be more than a minimal TS, imo.
2432. IKE 12:31 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
After looking at a San Juan radar again, I would say the western half of that island looks to get some heavier rains....soon....
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2433. IKE 12:32 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
Hmmm..something's going on. 97 is off the Navy page.


I see it on there.
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2434. GeoffreyWPB 12:33 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
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2435. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:36 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    


nice blob of former 97l
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2436. TheDawnAwakening 12:36 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
The Bahama disturbance is in an area of lower pressure, although they are still high, but the area is showing signs of potential organization.
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2437. hurricanemaniac123 12:37 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


nice blob of former 97l


It's still 97L, not former 97L.
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2438. IKE 12:38 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Bahamian blob may be 98L soon. Double your pleasure with 2 invests to debate.
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2439. WAHA 12:38 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting gator23:

you forgot
(7) Why did the NHC get it so wrong?
(8) How come they havent named this yet
(9) Shut up JFV

You forgot
(10) this looks like a category 4 hurricane
(11) this will go poof tonight
(12) that's not tropical
2440. Chicklit 12:38 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting all4hurricanes:
97L is still strengthening according to the coordinates. it's at 1009mb the lowest yet

Puerto Rican radar shows 97L at its best in quite a while.
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2442. nrtiwlnvragn 12:42 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
AL 97 2009072112 BEST 0 159N 667W 25 1010 DB
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2443. stormpetrol 12:42 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Does 15.9N/65.5W sound right for the COC of 97L?
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2444. HurricaneSwirl 12:43 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Bahamian blob may be 98L soon. Double your pleasure with 2 invests to debate.


oh gosh.. please for the sake of this blog nhc, dont declare the bahamas area 98L (or 96L, whichever direction they're going lol)

have we ever been through an entire list of invests (90L-99L) without any of them forming into named storms?
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2445. TheDawnAwakening 12:43 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Ike - do you think the Bahama's disturbance is the one that models are showing coming up the coast or out to sea up the East Coast? Pattern is a little similar to the great New England Hurricane of 1938. Before that storm there was heavy rainfall over New England before the storm came racing up the coast. Although its not from the Cape Verde Islands directly.
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2446. weathermanwannabe 12:44 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting MahFL:
Cuba has radars available, sometimes slow to load and sometimes down.

Cuba radar


Thanks
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2447. stormpetrol 12:44 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
opps! basically 1 degree off to the east.
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2448. IKE 12:46 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting TheDawnAwakening:
Ike - do you think the Bahama's disturbance is the one that models are showing coming up the coast or out to sea up the East Coast?


No.
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2449. Chicklit 12:47 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
Quoting stormpetrol:
Does 15.9N/65.5W sound right for the COC of 97L?

They officially have it at 14, 61.5...that's wrong. 97L has morphed to the NW.
Wundermap97L
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2450. nrtiwlnvragn 12:49 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
SHIPS (using BAMM track) has lower shear after 48 hours.
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2451. crownwx 12:49 PM GMT on July 21, 2009    
New 12Z SHIPS model shear forecast interesting. Drops shear to 5-15 kts by Thursday evening and leaves it at that strength through Saturday evening before increasing to 20 kts by Sunday morning. Link
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