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World storm surge records
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:41 PM GMT on August 03, 2009 +4
There's still not much to talk about the tropical Atlantic today. The Intertropical Convergence Zone (ITCZ), the band of intense thunderstorms that spans the tropical Atlantic between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands, has grown more active in the past few days, though. The two tropical waves in the ITCZ closest to the coast of Africa bear some scrutiny this week as they cross the Atlantic. However, none of the models are currently forecasting development of these waves, and there is plenty of wind shear and dry air that will interfere with potential development.

World storm surge records
In preparation for the release of a major new storm surge section of the web site, I've been researching storm surge records. The Bathurst Bay Cyclone, also known as Tropical Cyclone Mahina, which struck Bathurst Bay, Australia on March 5, 1899, is generally credited with the world record for storm surge. The cyclone's storm surge is variously listed at 13 - 14.6 meters (43 - 48 feet). The Category 5 cyclone was a monster--with sustained winds in excess of 175 mph and a central pressure between 880 and 914 mb. Mahina killed at least 307 people, mostly on pearling ships, and was the deadliest cyclone in Australian history. The eyewitness account of Mahina's record storm surge was provided by Constable J. M. Kenny, who journeyed to Barrow Point on Bathurst Bay to investigate a crime on the day of the storm. While camped on a ridge 40 feet above sea level and 1/2 mile inland, Kenny's camp was inundated by a storm wave, reaching waist-deep. On nearby Flinders Island, fish and dolphins were found on top of 15 meter (49 foot) cliffs. However, an analysis by Nott and Hayne (2000) found no evidence of storm-deposited debris higher than 3 - 5 meters above mean sea level in the region. They also cited two computer storm surge simulations of the cyclone that were unable to generate a surge higher than three meters. Indeed, Bathurst Bay is not ideally situated to receive high storm surges. The Great Barrier Reef lies just 20 - 40 km offshore, and the ocean bottom near the bay is not shallow, but steeply sloped. Both of these factors should conspire to keep storm surges well below the record 13 - 14.6 meters reported. The authors concluded that the actual surge from the Bathurst Bay Cyclone may have been 3 - 5 meters. The observed inundation at 13 meters elevation, plus the observation of dolphins deposited at 15 meters above sea level, could have been caused by high waves on top of the surge, they argue. Waves on top of the surge (called "wave run-up") can reach five times the wave height at the shore for steeply fronted coasts like at Bathurst Bay. Since waves in the Bathurst Bay Cyclone could easily have been 3 meters, 15 meters of wave run-up on top of the surge is quite feasible. Since wave run-up doesn't count as surge, the status of the 1899 Bathurst Bay Hurricane as the world-record holder for storm surge is questionable. However, the event is certainly the record holder for the high water mark set by a tropical cyclone's storm surge, an important category in its own right.


Figure 1. Satellite image of Bathurst Bay, Queensland Province, Australia. The record 43 - 48 foot storm surge wave occurred on Barrow Point, marked by an "x" on the map above. Image credit: NASA.


Figure 2. Track of the 1899 Bathurst Bay cyclone. Bathurst Bay is located at the point where the 914 mb pressure is listed. Image credit: Whittingham, 1958.

Australian storm surge records
The largest storm surges in Australia occur in Gulf of Carpentaria, due to the large expanse of shallow water there (the Gulf of Carpentaria is the large bay to the left of the zoomed-in map of Bathurst Bay shown above). According to an email I received from Australian hurricane scientist Jeffrey Callaghan, "From all reports the storm surge from the disastrous 5 March 1887 cyclone flooded almost all of Burketown (some 30km inland from the Gulf). A copy of a 1918 report to the Queensland Parliament from the Department of Harbours and Rivers Engineer refers to the sea rising to 5.5 metres above the highest spring tide level at the Albert River Heads. This level is about 8 metres (26.2 feet) above Australian Height Datum (AHD). The biggest measured surge in the Gulf of Carpenteria occurred on 30 March 1923, when a surge of 21.4 feet was recorded at a Groote Eylandt Mission".

So what is the world storm surge record if the Bathurst Bay cyclone does not qualify? Well, I haven't researched storms in the Indian Ocean or Pacific Typhoons yet, but it might be difficult to find any storm that beats Hurricane Katrina's 27.8 foot storm surge.

References:
Nott, J, N. Hayne, 2000: How high was the storm surge from Tropical Cyclone Mahina?", Australian Journal of Emergency Management, Autumn 2000.

Anonymous, 1899, The Outridge Report--The Pearling Disaster 1899: A Memorial", The Outridge Company, 1899

Whittingham, 1958, "The Bathurst Bay hurricane and associated storm surge", Australian Meteorological Magazine, No. 27, pp. 40-41. Scanned and put on-line courtesy of John McBride.

I'll have an update on Tuesday, when the latest CSU seasonal hurricane forecast comes out at 11am EDT.
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Jeff Masters
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151. Cavin Rawlins 3:49 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
2 AOIs

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152. seminolesfan 3:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Upward MJO phase now reaching the EPAC.
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153. hurricanejunky 3:50 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
As a reminder to those who still think we will go stormless, here are some of the later starting hurricane seasons...

2000...August 3 (Alberto) 14 named storms
1992...August 16 (Andrew) 6 named storms
1984...August 28 (Arthur) 12 named storms
(but a subtropical storm developed on Aug 18)
1977...August 29 (Anita) 6 named storms
1967...August 28 (Arlene) 8 named storms
1962...August 26 (Alma) 5 named storms

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154. Cavin Rawlins 3:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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155. Joanie38 3:52 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Walshy:
I hope this is not to much to ask, but can someone post me their ignore list and prefer list so I can enjoy this website more?


Hello Everyone, I'd like the same please..:) I have a question, why is it when I click on ignore user it takes me to my blog?? It's weird...lol...Thanks all..:)
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156. cyclonekid 3:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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157. AussieStorm 3:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting btwntx08:

img src="
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158. PORTCHARLOTTE72 3:51 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:
honestly GFS isnt really developing the system much lately, ECMWF has dropped it too

models are confused right now
there not confused you are there will be no tropical systems in the atlantic basin this season forcaster me
159. Cavin Rawlins 3:52 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting seminolesfan:
Upward MJO phase now reaching the EPAC.


Yea, and we're next.
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160. AllStar17 3:52 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
Models have backed down on development. No surprise. They weren't showing much in the first place.


Models do not mean everything, though. Which is why this should still be monitored.
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162. Cavin Rawlins 3:52 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Walshy:
I hope this is not to much to ask, but can someone post me their ignore list and prefer list so I can enjoy this website more?


Ignore list for bloggers

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163. Drakoen 3:53 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Nothing noteworthy on the GFS 12z
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164. stormdude77 3:53 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


Ignore list for bloggers



LOL...

That hasn't been updated in a while...im sure a few more names should be there by now
165. Patrap 3:54 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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166. IKE 3:55 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Looks like the blob in the eastern Atlantic is getting SAL'd on the 12Z GFS....

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167. ConchHondros 3:55 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Walshy:
I hope this is not to much to ask, but can someone post me their ignore list and prefer list so I can enjoy this website more?


I have 26 on my list, ignore anybody that engages in personal attacks...keep those that stick to the facts and decent fact related discussion...oh and ignore anyone who posts a season total prediction. Some good posters, sometimes get sucked in by a troll, just pay attention, you will be able to spot the good from the bad, and just hit the ignore tab
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170. cyclonekid 3:55 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Where's Orca been lately...haven't seen his Google Earth AOI's.
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171. Joanie38 3:56 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
I SO agree with that..:) With Concho I mean lol
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172. HurricaneSwirl 3:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting ConchHondros:


I have 26 on my list, ignore anybody that engages in personal attacks...keep those that stick to the facts and decent fact related discussion...oh and ignore anyone who posts a season total prediction. Some good posters, sometimes get sucked in by a troll, just pay attention, you will be able to spot the good from the bad, and just hit the ignore tab


why ignore anyone who posts a season prediction? im sure 90% of the bloggers here have posted season predictions in may or june.
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173. HadesGodWyvern 3:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Japan Meteorological Agency
Tropical Cyclone Warning #2
TROPICAL STORM GONI (T0907)
0:00 AM JST August 4 2009
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Subject: Category One Typhoon In South China Sea

At 15:00 PM UTC, Tropical Storm Goni (992 hPa) located at 20.4N 115.0E has 10 minute sustained winds of 35 knots with gusts of 50 knots. The storm is reported as moving northwest at 9 knots

Gale-force Winds
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180 NM from the center in southern quadrant
120 NM from the center in northern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
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24 HRS: 21.4N 114.8E - 40 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)
45 HRS: 22.0N 114.5E - 35 knots (CAT 1/Tropical Storm)
69 HRS: 22.7N 113.2E - Tropical Depression
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174. Drakoen 3:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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176. IKE 4:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Where is it? Did it spin up another ghost-storm?

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177. Cavin Rawlins 3:58 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Potential for development

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178. AussieStorm 3:59 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Goodnight All.
Stay safe, Play safe, and please no more fighting. Its a blog for goodness sake. Constructive arguments are ok but tantrums aren't.
Cheers AussieStorm
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179. jeffs713 3:59 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting hurricanejunky:


Amen. I think stormno does it to be funny and humurous. WeatherStudent (aka JFV) is actually serious in his comments, which is what makes it so annoying and scary. Since he has such a problem with Dr. Masters' latest blog entry maybe he should email Dr. Masters to ask if he can start doing them instead. I'm sure everyone would like that...DOH!


I would have more free time at work if stormno was posting the blog, since I won't be reading it.
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181. seminolesfan 4:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


Yea, and we're next.
Exactly. It is also interesting how this is 'possibly' related to 98E's current appearance. It seems that the MJO can be one of those sliding scale type influence factors, to the point that various tropical professionals have differing opinions of its importance.
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182. Cavin Rawlins 4:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
Where is it? Did it spin up another ghost-storm?



What happens when it does show development?
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183. Joanie38 4:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Why does my Ignore User button take me to my blog???
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184. Seflhurricane 4:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
best thing to do is wait and see what happens i think we will have something to track by the weekend
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185. ALCoastGambler 4:00 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Goodnight All.
Stay safe, Play safe, and please no more fighting. Its a blog for goodness sake. Constructive arguments are ok but tantrums aren't.
Cheers AussieStorm
Night Aussie c ya
186. hurricanejunky 4:01 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting jeffs713:


I would have more free time at work if stormno was posting the blog, since I won't be reading it.


I was actually referring to WeatherStudent (aka JFV). He was the one complaining so vehemently about Dr. Masters not doing his "homework" on the latest blog. Jeez...
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187. 19N81W 4:01 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
whats up with these models? is it because it is so far south? looks like its probably eating dust at the moment but not for that long?
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188. mobilegirl81 4:01 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Here we go . The tropical wave in the atlantic is only going to get more organized slowly. By the time it reaches the carribean shear will probaly be way down because the MJO is slowly migrating in. Looks like favorable conditions are evolving. The invests in the epac are cooling the waters off (whatever effects that may have regarding the tropical atlantic), not to mention headed out to nowhere, although good specimen to study.
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189. seminolesfan 4:01 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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191. Patrap 4:02 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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192. hurricanejunky 4:02 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Hey Drak,
Is that latest SAL map showing the SAL weakening or getting stronger? I don't remember what the last one you posted looked like...
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193. DaytonaBeachWatcher 4:02 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Because thats where you go to ignore people, Joanie
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194. TampaSpin 4:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Joanie38:
Why does my Ignore User button take me to my blog???


Thats where you add....WeatherStudent to your ignor list........LOL
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195. IKE 4:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Weather456:


What happens when it does show development?


With the GFS...in 2009...can't believe it when it shows developing systems.

I know...you're comeback is...then why believe it when it doesn't show development?

Answer...because nothing has, so far.
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196. ALCoastGambler 4:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Quoting Joanie38:
Why does my Ignore User button take me to my blog???
When you click ignore user. the name should appear on your list. just click update ignore list toward bottom. It will work.
197. ConchHondros 4:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
Good point HurricaneSwirl...I revise my statement. I will note predictions from the likes of StormW, Drak and a few others, but more than most use it as a tool to instigate, and those are rarely generated by any means of analysis...
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198. Patrap 4:03 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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199. seminolesfan 4:04 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
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200. mobilegirl81 4:06 PM GMT on August 03, 2009    
The waves are too far out to get a good lock on the forecast. Probably about mid way between they will pick up significantly.
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