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Felicia not weakening; new African wave may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:12 PM GMT on August 08, 2009 +1
Hurricane Felicia has not weakened today, and continues to hold its own in spite of cool sea surface temperatures beneath it. Recent satellite imagery shows that the tops of thunderstorms surrounding the eye have cooled slightly, indicating that the updrafts sustaining the eyewall are maintaining their strength. The appearance of the hurricane has improved some today, with the storm assuming a more symmetric appearance.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Hurricane Felicia.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia have now fallen to 24.7ยฐC, well below the 26ยฐC threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26ยฐC by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, though. Wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Monday morning. By Monday night, shear will rise to 20 knots, and remain above 20 knots thereafter. The higher shear combined with the relatively cool SSTs should mean that Felicia will be rapidly weakening in its final 24 hours before reaching Hawaii. Several of the computer models continue to show that this shear will be high enough to tear Felicia apart before it reaches Hawaii, though it appears to me that Felicia's current strength and annular structure will help it resist the shear enough to allow the storm to hit Hawaii as a tropical depression with 35 mph winds. Regardless, Felicia will bring heavy rain Hawaii beginning on Monday morning, and these rains will have the capability of causing flash floods and mudslides. The Hurricane Hunters are scheduled to make their first low-level investigation of Felicia this afternoon (around 10 am Hawaiian time). The NOAA jet also flies into Felicia today, and will drop a series of dropsondes that will be used to gather data that will be fed into today's 12Z and 00Z computer model runs.

Typhoon Morakot hits Taiwan
Typhoon Morakot hit Taiwan yesterday, battering the island with Category 1 winds and heavy rain. The Taipei airport recorded sustained winds of 56 mph, gusting to 76 mph, at the peak of the storm. Morakot killed 6 on Taiwan and 10 in the Philippines, and is headed towards a final landfall on mainland China as a tropical storm later today. Storm chaser James Reynolds intercepted the storm and posted videos on typhoonfury.com and Youtube. Morakot is still visible today on Taiwan radar.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of a spinning tropical wave leaving the coast of Africa. The image was taken at 8am EDT 8/8/09.

African tropical wave may develop
A strong tropical wave with a moderate amount of spin is moving off the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is under about 10 - 20 knots of wind shear and has sea surface temperatures beneath it of 27ยฐC. These conditions are probably too marginal to allow development over the next two days. As the wave moves westward away from Africa over the next few days, wind shear should slowly decrease and the SSTs will warm, potentially allowing for some slow development. The UKMET, GFS, and NOGAPS models all indicate the possibility that this will become a tropical depression 3 - 5 days from now. The ECMWF model forecasts that strong easterly winds over the wave will create too much shear to allow development. The wave is well south of the Saharan Air Layer, so dry air and African dust should not interfere over the next 3 - 5 days. I give the wave a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next seven days.

I'll have an update on Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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651. Orcasystems 8:03 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
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652. BurnedAfterPosting 8:08 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
LOL its hilarious when someone comes on and says something will be a fish storm before it gets off the coast.

Shows you that they truly lack any sort of weather knowledge or common sense.
654. louisianaboy444 8:13 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Felicia looks like she is strengethening again she is getting great structure and the eye appears to be coming back
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655. Drakoen 8:14 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
It's even funnier when people blog vicariously through different accounts
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656. cyclonekid 8:18 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Hi guys!

Have been at a yard sale all day. What's new in the tropics? I see the TW that's just now coming off the coast of Africa. Dr. Masters is looking at it pretty closly. May become Ana pretty soon. Any thoughts?

CK
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658. weathersp 8:20 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
MJO is in our Hemisphere...
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660. viman 8:23 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Hmmm.... activity increasing at 14N 54W any thoughts....
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661. TexasWynd 8:28 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
The Blog sure did slow down alot? Did something happen? lol
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662. weathersp 8:33 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
You know what...

After looking at several diffrent images of the african wave...

I don't think the COC has even left the coast yet..

but the convection fireing on the N side is a good sign that there is uplift in the region.
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663. TexasWynd 8:33 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
/checks Breath.. i did brush.. /smells armpit yep fresh! hmm lol
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665. Dakster 8:38 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
leftovers - feeling a little depraved are we?
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666. canesrule1 8:42 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
what are the latest news on the wave emerging africa?
667. java162 8:45 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
the new wave is falling apart.... i don't think it will develop.... the convection has disipated!!!!!!!
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668. Dakster 8:45 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
canesrule1 - I like your avatar...
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669. Chicklit 8:49 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting weathersp:
MJO is in our Hemisphere...

Someone call Austin Powers!
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670. Dakster 8:53 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:


You Rang?

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672. BurnedAfterPosting 8:54 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting java162:
the new wave is falling apart.... i don't think it will develop.... the convection has disipated!!!!!!!


You are crazy lol, please tell me your lurk more than you post
673. Dakster 8:54 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Not much weatherstudent..


Wassup with you?
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675. HadesGodWyvern 8:57 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Central Pacific Hurricane Center
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #21
SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE FELICIA (EP082009)
21:00 PM UTC August 8 2009
====================================

Interests In Hawaii Should Monitor The Progression Of This Cyclone.. A Tropical Storm Watch May Be Issued Later Today or Tonight For Portions Of Hawaii

At 18:00 PM UTC, Hurricane Felicia (981 hPa) located at 19.8N 142.1W or 735 NM east of of Hilo, Hawaii has sustained winds of 75 knots with gusts of 90 knots. The cyclone is reported as moving west at 13 knots.

Hurricane-force Winds
====================
30 NM from the center

Gale/Storm-force Winds
===============
100 NM from the center

Forecast and Intensity
======================
12 HRS: 20.1N 144.1W - 65 knots (SSHS-1 Cyclone)
24 HRS: 20.1N 146.8W - 60 knots (Tropical Storm)
48 HRS: 20.0N 152.4W - 40 knots (Tropical Storm)
72 HRS: 20.0N 158.0W - 30 knots (Tropical Depression)
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676. Walshy 8:57 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Look at Felicia's eye. Starting to weaken into a strong tropical storm? Hawaii could be the first state in the U.S to be hit by a TD or TS.

90L in the East Pacific has a good spin but is lacking convection. I give it a 25% of becoming a TD before dissipating.

Wave off of Africa looking good as night approaches over there. I give it a 50-70% of being a TD over the next five days.
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677. Dakster 8:58 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Same thing - tryin' not to feed the trolls...

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678. whitewabit (Mod) 8:58 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
develope??? its under 20 to 30 kts of shear.... in 82ยบ water...
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679. java162 8:59 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


You are crazy lol, please tell me your lurk more than you post


the models don't do anything much with it. its just another one of those that come off looking robust and then crumble.....
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680. 789 9:00 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


utterly redundant fool, ignored! good afternoon, all. what's going folks?
good afternoon
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681. Walshy 9:00 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Felicia down to 85mph.
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682. Chicklit 9:00 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Dakster, tell him his MJO has been sighted and it's oscillating.
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683. gordydunnot 9:02 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Blob alert 55w 12n.
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684. Dakster 9:03 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Chicklit - ROFLMAO...

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686. java162 9:04 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting gordydunnot:
Blob alert 55w 12n.



you labled it right a BLOB and i guess thats why no one has mentioned it
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687. HaboobsRsweet 9:04 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
WHY?!?!?! WHY?!?!?! does everytime someone posts their opinion that disagrees with formation of a wave must BurnedAfterPosting have to insult everyone? Seriously I do think this one has a shot but will never attack someone who has a different opinion. What a waste of posting space. As for them thinking it could be a fish storm, maybe they believe the ridge wont build in like it hasnt on many of the waves this year which would make the wave turn to the north and go around it and out to sea. Why rule that out? Try and do a long range forecast, see if you are right and learn from it. Why discourage it or put others down?
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688. BurnedAfterPosting 9:05 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting java162:


the models don't do anything much with it. its just another one of those that come off looking robust and then crumble.....


lol ok you go on thinking that, its your opinion
689. CybrTeddy 9:05 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting whitewabit:
develope??? its under 20 to 30 kts of shear.... in 82ยบ water...


If your referring to the African wave you'd be wrong there. Shear's lessening, SST's are plenty warm enough too.
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690. HaboobsRsweet 9:06 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


surreal, ignore him burned, remember, don't feed the troll, :)

Just because he disagrees and is in the minority does not make him a troll haha.
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691. whitewabit (Mod) 9:06 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/europe/winds/wm7shr.html
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692. gordydunnot 9:06 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Inquiring minds want to know. But if you think its just a blob thanks for your take on it.
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693. cchsweatherman 9:07 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Depending upon my schedule and developments, I will try and issue a Graphical Update regarding not only our African tropical wave, but also the tropical wave approaching the Eastern Caribbean.
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694. BurnedAfterPosting 9:08 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting whitewabit:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real-time/europe/winds/wm7shr.html


a 5 mile wide swath of 30 knots isnt close to where the MLC is, the 20 knots wont affect it too much, just maybe curtail it in the short term

If you look at the map, 5-10 knots is located around where the MLC is

695. TexasWynd 9:08 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Ya know regardless if one is upcasting, downcasting, wishcasting or which ever one may call it. Mother Earth will deal out her cards when she is ready
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696. TexasWynd 9:09 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Ya know regardless if one is upcasting, downcasting, wishcasting or which ever one may call it. Mother Earth will deal out her cards when she is ready
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697. HaboobsRsweet 9:09 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting CybrTeddy:


If your referring to the African wave you'd be wrong there. Shear's lessening, SST's are plenty warm enough too.

I do believe it is currently under about 20kts but you are right, about to hit more favorable shear levels and warmer water. It will not blow up in the next 24-48 hours but an invest in about 48-72 hours is not out of the question. Doing my long range forcasting, south FL needs to watch this wave and if the ridge builds in farther it could sneak into the Gulf which I hope it doesnt.
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698. CybrTeddy 9:09 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting HaboobsRsweet:
WHY?!?!?! WHY?!?!?! does everytime someone posts their opinion that disagrees with formation of a wave must BurnedAfterPosting have to insult everyone? Seriously I do think this one has a shot but will never attack someone who has a different opinion. What a waste of posting space. As for them thinking it could be a fish storm, maybe they believe the ridge wont build in like it hasnt on many of the waves this year which would make the wave turn to the north and go around it and out to sea. Why rule that out? Try and do a long range forecast, see if you are right and learn from it. Why discourage it or put others down?


When they don't place forward a valid reason like 'I don't think this will develop: Reasons, I think the wind shear will be too high to prevent development in the long term, and the SAL might be to strong and will induce into the system' THAT is a valid forecast, but just placing out there 'omg convection dissipaiting (even though its DMIN) RIP' or something along the lines of that, it causes arguments in the blogs and insults and the blog errupts into chaos. Most of the time, I just ignore the people who place that out. Including wishcasters who come out and say 'OMG! TD by afternoon' (which usually when the convection dissipates they always turn around and say 'RIP')
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699. java162 9:09 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Quoting BurnedAfterPosting:


lol ok you go on thinking that, its your opinion


thankyou... finaly you have some respect
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700. BurnedAfterPosting 9:10 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
Also its easterly shear, which has less of an impact on this wave than westerly shear would
701. whitewabit (Mod) 9:10 PM GMT on August 08, 2009    
we'll seee what it looks like in 48 hours...
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