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Felicia not weakening; new African wave may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:12 PM GMT on August 08, 2009 +1
Hurricane Felicia has not weakened today, and continues to hold its own in spite of cool sea surface temperatures beneath it. Recent satellite imagery shows that the tops of thunderstorms surrounding the eye have cooled slightly, indicating that the updrafts sustaining the eyewall are maintaining their strength. The appearance of the hurricane has improved some today, with the storm assuming a more symmetric appearance.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of Hurricane Felicia.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia have now fallen to 24.7°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, though. Wind shear is expected to remain low to moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Monday morning. By Monday night, shear will rise to 20 knots, and remain above 20 knots thereafter. The higher shear combined with the relatively cool SSTs should mean that Felicia will be rapidly weakening in its final 24 hours before reaching Hawaii. Several of the computer models continue to show that this shear will be high enough to tear Felicia apart before it reaches Hawaii, though it appears to me that Felicia's current strength and annular structure will help it resist the shear enough to allow the storm to hit Hawaii as a tropical depression with 35 mph winds. Regardless, Felicia will bring heavy rain Hawaii beginning on Monday morning, and these rains will have the capability of causing flash floods and mudslides. The Hurricane Hunters are scheduled to make their first low-level investigation of Felicia this afternoon (around 10 am Hawaiian time). The NOAA jet also flies into Felicia today, and will drop a series of dropsondes that will be used to gather data that will be fed into today's 12Z and 00Z computer model runs.

Typhoon Morakot hits Taiwan
Typhoon Morakot hit Taiwan yesterday, battering the island with Category 1 winds and heavy rain. The Taipei airport recorded sustained winds of 56 mph, gusting to 76 mph, at the peak of the storm. Morakot killed 6 on Taiwan and 10 in the Philippines, and is headed towards a final landfall on mainland China as a tropical storm later today. Storm chaser James Reynolds intercepted the storm and posted videos on typhoonfury.com and Youtube. Morakot is still visible today on Taiwan radar.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image of a spinning tropical wave leaving the coast of Africa. The image was taken at 8am EDT 8/8/09.

African tropical wave may develop
A strong tropical wave with a moderate amount of spin is moving off the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is under about 10 - 20 knots of wind shear and has sea surface temperatures beneath it of 27°C. These conditions are probably too marginal to allow development over the next two days. As the wave moves westward away from Africa over the next few days, wind shear should slowly decrease and the SSTs will warm, potentially allowing for some slow development. The UKMET, GFS, and NOGAPS models all indicate the possibility that this will become a tropical depression 3 - 5 days from now. The ECMWF model forecasts that strong easterly winds over the wave will create too much shear to allow development. The wave is well south of the Saharan Air Layer, so dry air and African dust should not interfere over the next 3 - 5 days. I give the wave a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next seven days.

I'll have an update on Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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1501. weatherwatcher12 3:38 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
I'm still going to watch the wave from the Caribbean
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1502. HaboobsRsweet 3:38 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneJoe:


That's all a bit confusing to this 18 year old...haha

I spent 4 years doing that stuff...it is still confusing to me haha. All you got to take away from it is vorticity is rotation and PVA leans to cyclonic rotation (counter clockwise hence Lows) and NVA is anti-cyclonic usually near highs and ridges.
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1503. Drakoen 3:38 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
I still think the GFS has convective feedback issues with those so called ITCZ lows
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1504. sporteguy03 3:38 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting hurricane23:
Only thing iam not feeling right now is its latitude.A quick developer may only amount to marine interest.

Do you think because of SSts it could be kept in check to a TD or TS till later longitude? We've seen long trackers before...
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1505. Patrap 3:39 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
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1506. Stormchaser2007 3:39 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
If it actually moves into the Verdes it'll have to contend with SAL. We all know how thats worked out for past waves.

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1507. JLPR 3:39 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
looking good


and we are still 3 hours away from D-MAX =O
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1508. extreme236 3:40 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Some convection firing between 40-45W.
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1510. HurricaneJoe 3:40 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting sporteguy03:

Do you think because of SSts it could be kept in check to a TD or TS till later longitude? We've seen long trackers before...


The SSTs are more than capable of supporting a TC in that area, the water's hot.
1511. Patrap 3:41 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
African tropical wave may develop

A strong tropical wave with a moderate amount of spin is moving off the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is under about 10 - 20 knots of wind shear and has sea surface temperatures beneath it of 27C. These conditions are probably too marginal to allow development over the next two days. As the wave moves westward away from Africa over the next few days, wind shear should slowly decrease and the SSTs will warm, potentially allowing for some slow development. The UKMET, GFS, and NOGAPS models all indicate the possibility that this will become a tropical depression 3 - 5 days from now. The ECMWF model forecasts that strong easterly winds over the wave will create too much shear to allow development.The wave is well south of the Saharan Air Layer, so dry air and African dust should not interfere over the next 3 - 5 days . I give the wave a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next seven days.

I'll have an update on Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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1512. HurricaneJoe 3:41 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting JLPR:
looking good


and we are still 3 hours away from D-MAX =O


You gonna stay awake for it? I'd like to see it once that time rolls around
1513. Stormchaser2007 3:42 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
42 hours:

Tropical Storm Ana.

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1514. Drakoen 3:42 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
If it actually moves into the Verdes it'll have to contend with SAL. We all know how thats worked out for past waves.



Probably why the GFS keeps the system compact. It would have a hard time establishing a poleward outflow channel
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1515. HaboobsRsweet 3:42 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:

Looks like a solid land breeze on the west coast of FL.
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1516. winter123 3:42 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:


Do you think that convection coming off florida has a chance? I was looking at that a few hours ago then i was like, naaaah no way. You think?
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1518. Stormchaser2007 3:43 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
African tropical wave may develop
A strong tropical wave with a moderate amount of spin is moving off the coast of Africa this morning. The wave is under about 10 - 20 knots of wind shear and has sea surface temperatures beneath it of 27°C. These conditions are probably too marginal to allow development over the next two days. As the wave moves westward away from Africa over the next few days, wind shear should slowly decrease and the SSTs will warm, potentially allowing for some slow development. The UKMET, GFS, and NOGAPS models all indicate the possibility that this will become a tropical depression 3 - 5 days from now. The ECMWF model forecasts that strong easterly winds over the wave will create too much shear to allow development.The wave is well south of the Saharan Air Layer, so dry air and African dust should not interfere over the next 3 - 5 days . I give the wave a medium (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression in the next seven days.

I'll have an update on Sunday.

Jeff Masters


Look at the graphic I just posted...If it makes it to 15N the circulation will suck in some SAL.
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1519. HurricaneSwirl 3:44 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting JLPR:
looking good


and we are still 3 hours away from D-MAX =O


its DMAX right now for the wave. remember the wave is in a different time zone.
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1520. Stormchaser2007 3:44 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


Probably why the GFS keeps the system compact. It would have a hard time establishing a poleward outflow channel


Yeah thats probably why.
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1522. HurricaneJoe 3:44 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
How often does the GOES EATL satellite update?
1523. Drakoen 3:44 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Yeah thats probably why.


That could also be why the ECMWF weakens it gradually. How much latitude it gains is important
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1524. Patrap 3:45 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
MSLP keeps it running along ..Its encapsulating already.
So Any SAL will be slow to null to inhibit thru 96.
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1525. Stormchaser2007 3:45 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


its DMAX right now for the wave. remember the wave is in a different time zone.


Actually when the sun rises over it...thats DMAX.
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1526. HaboobsRsweet 3:45 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
I still think it is too close to land...tomorrows DMAX will tell us a lot more than tonights. Also I think a lot of folks are pointing the center to be way to far north. Looks to me the convection that is firing is actually to the NNW of the true center.
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1527. Patrap 3:46 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
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1528. SouthALWX 3:46 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Look at the graphic I just posted...If it makes it to 15N the circulation will suck in some SAL.

I don't know that the circulation center is as poleward as the imagery suggests. Likely than not the LLC is displaced further south and east of the bigger convection.
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1529. Stormchaser2007 3:46 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:


That could also be why the ECMWF weakens it gradually. How much latitude it gains is important


The 00z ECMWF should be rather interesting.
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1531. HaboobsRsweet 3:46 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Patrap...looks like we are in for a lot more rain again tomorrow. I need to cut my grass haha. I cant get it in with all the rain.
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1532. Chicklit 3:47 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
'evening everyone.
looks like the 'shear guard' is about down in the caribbean except for the strands of 20 and 30 knots at the entrance.
shear to the north, too.
Link
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1533. Patrap 3:48 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Rains look to return by morning in Se La and S. Miss.
Was a gully washer this am.
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1534. Stormchaser2007 3:48 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
60 hours:

Still a decent Tropical Storm.

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1535. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 3:49 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Meteosat 4 km IR4 Floater



AOI/XX/XXL
MARK
13.3N/19.7W
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1536. HaboobsRsweet 3:49 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Patrap:
Rains look to return by morning in Se La and S. Miss.
Was a gully washer this am.

Yea we were pretty wet all morning long. Got a break in the rain a bit this afternoon. Just enough to make it humid as heck.
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1537. SevereHurricane 3:49 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


The 00z ECMWF should be rather interesting.


I agree,

I haven't made up my mind if I am going to stay up wait for it tonight. I'll probably make the decision after I see what the NHC says at 2am.
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1538. HaboobsRsweet 3:50 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting SevereHurricane:


I agree,

I haven't made up my mind if I am going to stay up wait for it tonight. I'll probably make the decision after I see what the NHC says at 2am.

Whew you all have fun with that. I promise whatever comes out at 2am and on the 00z model runs will still be there in the morning when you wake up haha.
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1539. JLPR 3:51 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneJoe:


You gonna stay awake for it? I'd like to see it once that time rolls around


Dmax would be 2:30am my time and im usually awake for that time =P
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1540. JRRP 3:51 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
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1541. Stormchaser2007 3:51 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting SevereHurricane:


I agree,

I haven't made up my mind if I am going to stay up wait for it tonight. I'll probably make the decision after I see what the NHC says at 2am.


Ill probably be up for when it comes out.

Im not sure if the NHC will mention the wave yet.
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1542. Orcasystems 3:52 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting SevereHurricane:


I agree,

I haven't made up my mind if I am going to stay up wait for it tonight. I'll probably make the decision after I see what the NHC says at 2am.


Umm what could they possibly say in the 2am that won't wait until you wake up? You need a break :)
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1543. Chicklit 3:52 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
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1544. JRRP 3:53 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
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1545. HurricaneJoe 3:53 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


Ill probably be up for when it comes out.

Im not sure if the NHC will mention the wave yet.


I'll be up for it, courtesy of a few cokes ;)
1546. SevereHurricane 3:54 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Umm what could they possibly say in the 2am that won't wait until you wake up? You need a break :)


I just got started.
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1547. Drakoen 3:54 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting Orcasystems:


Umm what could they possibly say in the 2am that won't wait until you wake up? You need a break :)


LOL!
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1548. JLPR 3:54 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


its DMAX right now for the wave. remember the wave is in a different time zone.


nope its still night there the sun will shine there in 2:30 hours approx.
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1549. HaboobsRsweet 3:55 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
Save your energy for when the wave or a storm actually is close to land or hits land. Then it is interesting to watch. I do not think I have every sacrficed sleep for a model run haha.
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1550. extreme236 3:55 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
I may actually stay up for the 2am TWO for once. Until my freakin neighbors dog shuts up I wont be sleeping...
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1551. unlweatherman 3:56 AM GMT on August 09, 2009    
On the intensity forecast for Felicia from the latest CPHC forecast discussion...it looks increasingly likely that Hawaii will be dealing with a minimal or even moderate tropical storm:

FELICIA IS TAKING ITS TIME TO EMBARK UPON A SERIOUS WEAKENING TREND.
THE UNDERLYING SEA-SURFACE TEMPERATURES ARE CURRENTLY ABOUT 25
CELSIUS AND WILL GRADUALLY WARM ALONG THE FORECAST TRACK THROUGHOUT
THE FIVE-DAY FORECAST PERIOD. MEANWHILE...WESTERLY SHEAR IS
FORECAST TO SLOWLY INCREASE AND MAXIMIZE IN ABOUT 48 HOURS...ABOUT
THE TIME FELICIA IS ON THE DOORSTEP OF THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS. THE
INTENSITY GUIDANCE MODELS RESPOND TO THESE FACTORS BY FORECASTING
GRADUAL WEAKENING...BUT ALL OF THEM HOLD ON TO A TROPICAL STORM
THROUGH 48 HOURS...AND SOME EVEN TO 72 HOURS. THE NEW OFFICIAL
FORECAST IS ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY UPWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS ONE TO BE
CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY CONSENSUS...ICON.

GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTIES WITH INTENSITY FORECASTING...IT IS IMPORTANT
TO POINT OUT THE INTENSITY PROBABILITIES ACCOMPANYING THIS ADVISORY
PACKAGE. THAT PRODUCT INDICATES THAT THERE IS ABOUT A 60 PERCENT
CHANCE OF FELICIA BEING A TROPICAL STORM IN 48 HOURS WHEN IT IS
VERY NEAR THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS...WITH ABOUT A 25 PERCENT CHANCE OF
IT BEING A TROPICAL DEPRESSION...AND A 10 PERCENT CHANCE OF IT
BEING A HURRICANE.

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