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Hawaii braces for Felicia; 99L near the Cape Verdes Islands may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2009 +4
A strong tropical wave (99L) is just south of the Cape Verdes Islands, 800 miles off the coast of Africa. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a nearly closed surface circulation, stretched out along one axis. The satellite saw winds of up to 45 mph in a band of heavy thunderstorms well south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The islands have seen winds of only 10 - 15 mph and some occasional rain showers thus far from the disturbance. Heavy thunderstorm activity associated with 99L died down this morning, but appears to be making a comeback late this morning. Wind shear is moderate, about 10 knots, and sea surface temperatures are moderately warm, about 27 - 28°C. There is a large area of dry air to 99L's north that is interfering with the storm's organization, though.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of disturbance 99L.

Wind shear is expected to be moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Wednesday. SSTs will remain relatively constant at 27°C, but the dry, stable air of the Saharan AIr Layer (SAL) to 99L's north will be problem for it. NHC has given 99L a moderate (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. Most of the models show some weak development, but none of them predict 99L will become a hurricane. It is too early to say if 99L will recurve north of the Lesser Antilles Islands or not, since it will be at least 5 days before the storm makes it that far. It is unusual, though, for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands.

The GFS and ECMWF models are predicting the possible development of a new tropical wave coming off the coast of Africa late this week.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia has weakened steadily over the past 24 hours, thanks to cool sea surface temperatures and increasing shear. Recent satellite loops show that strong upper-level winds from the west have pushed the storm's heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds. Felicia's relatively meager heavy thunderstorm activity is steadily moving away from the center of the storm.


Figure 2. History of hurricane activity over Hawaii since 1950. Hawaii islands have been hit by only 9 tropical cyclones of tropical depression or greater strength, with 4 others passing withing 75 miles of an island. Image credit: NOAA Coastal Services Center.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia are 25°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by Tuesday. Wind shear has increased to a high 30 knots, and is expected to increase further to 40 knots by Tuesday. The high shear combined with the cool SSTs should continue to weaken Felicia today. I give a 30% chance that the shear will completely rip away Felicia's heavy thunderstorm activity by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, leaving only a swirl of low-level clouds that will not cause significant flooding problems. The wind speed probabilities forecast shows about a 25% chance Felicia will still be a weak tropical storm at 3 am Hawaiian time Tuesday morning, and a 15% chance the storm will have dissipated. If Felicia does hold together that long, it would be only the tenth tropical cyclone of tropical depression or higher strength to affect the islands since 1950 (Figure 2). Large swells from Felicia are already affecting the Big Island, and a high surf warning has been posted for east-facing shores of the Big Island and other Hawaiian islands. Felicia or its remnants may bring heavy rain, flash flooding, and mud slides to the islands beginning this afternoon, and a Flash Flood Watch has been posted for most of the islands.

Links to follow:
Long range radar from the Big Island
Wundermap for Hawaii

I'll have an update Tuesday morning.
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851. KmanGal 7:26 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Hey...anyone know what's going on with that bit over by Barbados, etc.? Looks interesting.
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854. Relix 7:27 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
99L had a heart attack since last time I saw it. I've been saying for two days the Barbados wave looked very good and had the potential to do a Jeanne on us. Probably passes far to the south of PR, RD should watch out.
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857. PcolaDan 7:27 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
RIP Felicia. Don't even think it will help the surf in Hawaii.
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858. hurricane23 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
SAL has been a persistent issue so far this season hopefully we'll get a break.
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859. hahaguy 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
And our Barbados wave is looking better.


Surprisingly it is.
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860. LiveFromTheCarolinas 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Greyelf:
Whee. I see Admin's on top of things and the bannings have already started. Thumbs up Admin.


Yep. Good call.
861. conchygirl 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
yeah i can tell because its only like 5 people posting.
I put so many on ignore earlier that I didn't even notice. About time though - now lurking is so much easier. :)
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862. Eyewall07 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Barbados disturbance has ventilation to it's SE.
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863. canesrule1 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Right now its 6:30 over 99L and we are very close to DMIN so maybe that can be one of the reasons for the dead convection:
864. Greyelf 7:28 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
yeah i can tell because its only like 5 people posting.

That's what made me notice. Thought things had slowed down and figured the fuel must have disappeared.
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868. flsky 7:30 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
stormno: "if you guys would of read my post yesterday i told you 99l would have no chance many mountains to climb to much dry air in its path...i told you guys not to get excited like you were..."


Well! Aren't you special!
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870. canesrule1 7:30 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Greyelf:

That's what made me notice. Thought things had slowed down and figured the fuel must have disappeared.
lol, yup.
871. Patrap 7:30 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
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872. jlp09550 7:30 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Is anyone having issues connecting to the RAMSDIS site? It's timing out for me.
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874. canesrule1 7:31 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting conchygirl:
I put so many on ignore earlier that I didn't even notice. About time though - now lurking is so much easier. :)
true
875. hurricanemaniac123 7:31 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting PcolaDan:
RIP Felicia. Don't even think it will help the surf in Hawaii.


What looks better, Felicia or 99L? I think 99L looks somewhat better.
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876. BenBIogger 7:31 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    


Quoting CycloneOz:
99L's swallowed too much dust
Leaving us look for a decent gust
Dry air induction exacts a heavy price
But out west it's real nice
Formation? That location's a must!


F is for?
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877. PcolaDan 7:32 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting jlp09550:
Is anyone having issues connecting to the RAMSDIS site? It's timing out for me.


Looks like server is down.
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879. jlp09550 7:33 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting PcolaDan:


Looks like server is down.


Lol, we killed it. xD
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880. canesrule1 7:33 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
I actually wouldnt be surprised if nothing forms over the next 3 weeks.. Im not downcasting, but it just seems like every wave or disturbance that gets going.......They just fizzle like a firework.
i agree with u on the wave fireworks thing, all the waves that we have monitored have fizzled.
881. canesrule1 7:35 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
This was TD#1 at peak intensity (35MPH):
882. Stormchaser2007 7:35 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
I actually wouldnt be surprised if nothing forms over the next 3 weeks.. Im not downcasting, but it just seems like every wave or disturbance that gets going.......They just fizzle like a firework.


Exactly.
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883. sky1989 7:36 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Three days from now, the tropics could be either very interesting or very disappointing to many on here. I think that the wave behind 99L has a good chance to develop in the future. For 99L itself, the dry air only looks to become more severe as it tracks west. We will have to be patient and wait and see.
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884. extreme236 7:37 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
I actually wouldnt be surprised if nothing forms over the next 3 weeks.. Im not downcasting, but it just seems like every wave or disturbance that gets going.......They just fizzle like a firework.


I'd be incredibly surprised actually. But I do get what your saying.
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885. StormChaser81 7:37 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting PcolaDan:
RIP Felicia. Don't even think it will help the surf in Hawaii.


.

Look at the visible, your only seeing the convection on WV. It's just has high shear that has ripped the top off
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886. sporteguy03 7:37 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Link

With conditions out ahead looking favorable hard to write off 99L, weaker it stays the better chance it does not recurve.
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887. philliesrock 7:37 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
162 hour hi-res Euro shows the wave near the Antilles making landfall in LA. Most QPF is on the east side of the low near NOLA, however.

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889. Stormchaser2007 7:38 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Barbados disturbance should have favorable shear and SAL.

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891. weathersp 7:38 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Anyone notice that our little convective "Barbados Blob" is on a vector that is Southwesterly.
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892. hondaguy 7:38 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Tropical systems have a tendency to flare up at night. I have a feeling that 99L may do exactly this overnight.

Drak: Earlier you said that you didnt expect anything with the other system due to dry air surrounding it...what's your take on this thing now?

My original thought is that this thing would moistion itself over time given the conditions it's under.
893. extreme236 7:38 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
If 99L is still generating limited convection tomorrow then I will be more inclined to right it off, but not yet.
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894. StormChaser81 7:39 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting sky1989:
Three days from now, the tropics could be either very interesting or very disappointing to many on here. I think that the wave behind 99L has a good chance to develop in the future. For 99L itself, the dry air only looks to become more severe as it tracks west. We will have to be patient and wait and see.


Usually if they stay together once the dry air subsides they can come back pretty quickly.
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895. gordydunnot 7:41 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Pretty sad T.D.
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896. Twinkster 7:41 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting IKE:
From...TROPICAL DISCUSSION - INTERNATIONAL DESKS
NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD
251 PM EDT MON AUG 10 2009



EXTENDED OUTLOOK: THE EMPIRICAL WAVE PROPAGATION MODELS MAINTAINS
GOOD CONTINUITY WITH PREVIOUS FORECASTS...SHOWING MJO CONDITIONS
ACROSS NORTHERN SOUTH AMERICA INTO THE TROPICAL ATLANTIC IMPROVING
THROUGH MID AUGUST...WITH CONDITIONS TO REMAIN FAVORABLE THROUGH
THE END OF THE MONTH-FIRST WEEK IN SEPTEMBER. THE GLOBAL MODELS
ARE STARTING TO REACT TO THE CHANGE IN CONDITIONS/
ENVIRONMENT...AS THEY NOW SHOW RISK OF WARM CORE CYCLOGENESIS ON
BOTH OCEANS. AT UPPER LEVELS A CELL OF THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE WILL
MEANDER NORTH OF THE GREATER ANTILLES/OFF THE COAST OF THE
USA...WHICH IS TO THEN SUSTAIN A TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL ATLANTIC.
A WEAK/NARROW RIDGE IS TO THEN REMAIN TO THE SOUTH OF 23N. IF THIS
PATTERN PERSIST...TROPICAL CYCLONES FORMING OFF THE COAST OF
AFRICA ARE LIKELY TO TURN TOWARDS THE NORTH AS THEY ARE ABOUT TO
REACH THE ISLAND CHAIN. THE ONES FORMING TO THE WEST OF 45W ARE UP
FOR GRAB...AS THEY ARE LIKELY TO THREATEN THE ISLAND CHAIN-PUERTO
RICO/DOMINICAN REPUBLIC.


IKE where did you find this?

Also i sort of understand it but can you explain what it means
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897. GeoffreyWPB 7:41 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
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898. eyesontheweather 7:41 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting RickWPB:
The 1200 GFS run now shows the wave (yet to come off Africa) to re-curve just east of FL. 99L fizzles. But that's about 12 to 14 days out from now.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/carib/gfs/12/index_pcp_s_loop.shtml
WOW, looks like it takes out alot going up the east coast from S. Carolina to Baltimore and beyond. I can not tell what catagory this is predicting? Having said that I am certain that this course amongst other things, will continue to change, Just wondering if it will be east or west
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899. sky1989 7:41 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
I actually wouldnt be surprised if nothing forms over the next 3 weeks.. Im not downcasting, but it just seems like every wave or disturbance that gets going.......They just fizzle like a firework.


I agree... I really thought that 97L would develop. It looked so impressive when it came off of Africa, and it persisted for a while. But it just never fully developed. And there have been many others this hurricane season. But conditions may finally be becoming more favorable.
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900. rwdobson 7:42 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
So far I'm not all that impressed w/the barbados wave. it has a good amount of convection, but it's stretched out a lot. Too oblong. Plus it's surrounded by a lot of dry air.
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901. Stormchaser2007 7:42 PM GMT on August 10, 2009    
Quoting sporteguy03:
Link

With conditions out ahead looking favorable hard to write off 99L, weaker it stays the better chance it does not recurve.


This was the only thing that looked unfavorable for development and it ended up pretty much killing all of the convection.

If the convection doesnt rebuild by tomorrow then its going to have allot of work to do with rebuilding a circulation.

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