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Hawaii braces for Felicia; 99L near the Cape Verdes Islands may develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 3:55 PM GMT on August 10, 2009 +4
A strong tropical wave (99L) is just south of the Cape Verdes Islands, 800 miles off the coast of Africa. This morning's QuikSCAT pass showed a nearly closed surface circulation, stretched out along one axis. The satellite saw winds of up to 45 mph in a band of heavy thunderstorms well south of the Cape Verdes Islands. The islands have seen winds of only 10 - 15 mph and some occasional rain showers thus far from the disturbance. Heavy thunderstorm activity associated with 99L died down this morning, but appears to be making a comeback late this morning. Wind shear is moderate, about 10 knots, and sea surface temperatures are moderately warm, about 27 - 28°C. There is a large area of dry air to 99L's north that is interfering with the storm's organization, though.


Figure 1. Current satellite image of disturbance 99L.

Wind shear is expected to be moderate, 5 - 15 knots, through Wednesday. SSTs will remain relatively constant at 27°C, but the dry, stable air of the Saharan AIr Layer (SAL) to 99L's north will be problem for it. NHC has given 99L a moderate (30 - 50% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. Most of the models show some weak development, but none of them predict 99L will become a hurricane. It is too early to say if 99L will recurve north of the Lesser Antilles Islands or not, since it will be at least 5 days before the storm makes it that far. It is unusual, though, for storms forming this far north to make it all the way across the Atlantic to hit the Lesser Antilles Islands.

The GFS and ECMWF models are predicting the possible development of a new tropical wave coming off the coast of Africa late this week.

Felicia continues to weaken, but is a flash flooding threat to Hawaii
Tropical Storm Felicia has weakened steadily over the past 24 hours, thanks to cool sea surface temperatures and increasing shear. Recent satellite loops show that strong upper-level winds from the west have pushed the storm's heavy thunderstorm activity to the northeast side of the center, exposing the surface center as a swirl of low clouds. Felicia's relatively meager heavy thunderstorm activity is steadily moving away from the center of the storm.


Figure 2. History of hurricane activity over Hawaii since 1950. Hawaii islands have been hit by only 9 tropical cyclones of tropical depression or greater strength, with 4 others passing withing 75 miles of an island. Image credit: NOAA Coastal Services Center.

Sea surface temperatures (SSTs) under Felicia are 25°C, well below the 26°C threshold typically needed to sustain a hurricane. SSTs will slowly increase to 26°C by Tuesday. Wind shear has increased to a high 30 knots, and is expected to increase further to 40 knots by Tuesday. The high shear combined with the cool SSTs should continue to weaken Felicia today. I give a 30% chance that the shear will completely rip away Felicia's heavy thunderstorm activity by the time the storm reaches Hawaii, leaving only a swirl of low-level clouds that will not cause significant flooding problems. The wind speed probabilities forecast shows about a 25% chance Felicia will still be a weak tropical storm at 3 am Hawaiian time Tuesday morning, and a 15% chance the storm will have dissipated. If Felicia does hold together that long, it would be only the tenth tropical cyclone of tropical depression or higher strength to affect the islands since 1950 (Figure 2). Large swells from Felicia are already affecting the Big Island, and a high surf warning has been posted for east-facing shores of the Big Island and other Hawaiian islands. Felicia or its remnants may bring heavy rain, flash flooding, and mud slides to the islands beginning this afternoon, and a Flash Flood Watch has been posted for most of the islands.

Links to follow:
Long range radar from the Big Island
Wundermap for Hawaii

I'll have an update Tuesday morning.
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3101. Chicklit 12:49 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Keeper your graphics have security certificate errors and are not showing up. You might want to delete them.
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3102. Stormchaser2007 12:51 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
The only thing keeping the 52W wave from developing is SAL. If this can get some convection going near the low level center then it could develop rather quickly. Doesnt seem like OTS is an option with this.
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3103. TropicTraveler 12:51 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting CaneWarning:
Wow TD2 is set to become Ana according to the NHC.

Well there goes the dream of a zero-zero-zero season I guess. Good morning everyone!
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3104. extreme236 12:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Well I didn't expect to see a special advisory issued to upgrade this to a depression. Interesting. Good morning all.
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3105. nrtiwlnvragn 12:52 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
AL 02 2009081112 BEST 0 145N 291W 25 1006
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3107. cg2916 12:53 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting jasoniscoolman10:
i have a bad feeling about 99L I DO NOT SEE THIS TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO GOING OUT TO SEA AT ALL. the new models are going more west now.

Neither do I for some reason.
Quoting Weather456:
The vis floater looks impressive for Td 2. But It's my opinion its being affected by a bit of dry air.

Same here.
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3108. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 12:54 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Chicklit:
Keeper your graphics have security certificate errors and are not showing up. You might want to delete them.
there from US NAVY FNMOC chicklit they are safe just click on go to site anyway would never sent bad links did a scan last night use my services all clear those NAVY site dont update there info for some reason
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3109. TheCaneWhisperer 12:54 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting TropicTraveler:

Well there goes the dream of a zero-zero-zero season I guess. Good morning everyone!


Not quite. Forecast is for a Storm, that can change. Still 0, 0, 0 with the only entity battling dry air
3110. nrtiwlnvragn 12:54 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
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3111. palmbaywhoo 12:55 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
can some one post the link to gfdl please?
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3112. ineedwind 12:55 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
NHC is bored. They're all sitting on their hands also. They jumped the gun on classification.
3113. extreme236 12:56 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting ineedwind:
NHC is bored. They're all sitting on their hands also. They jumped the gun on classification.


Dvorak intensity estimates were sufficient for classification and the QS pass showed a closed low. What more do you need?
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3114. wunderkidcayman 12:57 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting cg2916:

Neither do I for some reason.

Same here.

neither do I somehow I think this is a caribbean system
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3115. cg2916 12:58 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting wunderkidcayman:

neither do I somehow I think this is a caribbean system

I was thinking more Florida/GOM, but your guess is as good as mine.
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3116. yamil20 12:59 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting ineedwind:
NHC is bored. They're all sitting on their hands also. They jumped the gun on classification.


if they wouldn't classified, then someone will say, oohh they are too conservative,sometimes i don't underatand how people react, by the way good morning everyone
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3117. Stormchaser2007 12:59 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
In my opinion the NHC should have waited a day. Good sized area of dry air and SAL to its west should limit any strengthening over the next day or two.



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3118. WAHA 12:59 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Here is where I think TD2 will go:

3119. nrtiwlnvragn 1:00 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
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3120. RescueAFR 1:00 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Good Morning Everyone..from South Fla..

Based on the images this morning from NHC as predicted..MOJO is rising..

Stay well, enjoy the day
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3121. NEwxguy 1:01 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
It really has nice structure,if it can fight off the dry air that is trying to intrude into it,it should become a TS a day or two down the road.
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3122. WAHA 1:01 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
What does directly relevant mean?
3123. BDAwx 1:01 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    

unless they know something we don't know
I'm a little more concerned about what the gfs is doing with the wave behind it even though its still over Africa and is a long term MODEL forecast to show how much I'm currently worried about TD2 but it could become Ana hmm...

Quoting ineedwind:
NHC is bored. They're all sitting on their hands also. They jumped the gun on classification.
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3124. extreme236 1:01 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Interestingly enough, NHC didn't mention anything about dry air in the discussion. Not saying that means anything, but interesting.
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3125. Stormchaser2007 1:02 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting WAHA:
Here is where I think TD2 will go:



If those dots are indicating strength you are going to be WAY off. Where those red dots are on 'your' map is where shear and SAL will be the greatest.

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3127. reedzone 1:03 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Haha and this is only the start of what I'm predicting an active period of storms. I can see Ana, Bill, and Claudette these next 2 weeks. that makes 3 named storms for August. The second one posing a possible major threat to the Islands and USA. Now that we have lots of model support for the wave that is just coming off the coast of Africa(Bill), I'm confident this will form. Even the EURO has a Hurricane now so the GFS is not alone... Oh yeah, the CMC to.
While TD2 wanders and probably recurves out to sea, the high will build in enough to keep the second problem on a full westward track until reaching the Islands, then it could either go OTS, or head up the USA Coastline. Lots of time to watch this one.
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3128. WAHA 1:05 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:


If those dots are indicating strength you are going to be WAY off. Where those red dots are on 'your' map is where shear and SAL will be the greatest.


Oh, I knew there would be a problem! I didn't check the windshear! Thanks for pointing that out.
3129. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 1:06 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Tropical Depression 02l(no name)WARNING 1
110600Z POSIT NEAR 14.4N27.9W
MOVING 270 DEGREES TRUE AT 11 KNOTS
11/06Z WIND 25KTS GUSTS 35 KTS
11/18Z WIND 30 KTS GUSTS 40 KTS
12/06Z WIND 35 KTS GUSTS 45 KTS
12/18Z WIND 35 KTS GUSTS 45 KTS
14/06Z WIND 45 KTS GUSTS 55 KTS
15/06Z WIND 50 KTS GUSTS 60 KTS
...................................
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3131. WAHA 1:06 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting ineedwind:
NHC is bored. They're all sitting on their hands also. They jumped the gun on classification.

Oh, heck no! In fact I think they DUCKED the gun!
3132. Chicklit 1:07 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Oh puhleese. There's less to be bored about now than there was the entire two months into the season and the NHC showed restraint then. They're not a bunch of bloggers speculating. They're professional meterologists with lists of specific requirements that have to be met before they'll call anything. We've seen cases where they won't call a TD because there is no COC but there's everything else. So they must have found the COC and whatever else has to go into a TD and called it what it was. By the way, the areas at The Windwards and out by 50W are still code yellow and looking pretty thin. Not saying they won't develop, but obviously the NHC isn't jumping the gun on anything. They haven't classified the wave behind TD2 yet, have they?
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3133. extreme236 1:09 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
So anything new on this "Bill" wave?
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3134. Twinkster 1:08 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:
Im surprised the news here in south florida wont talk about what models ae developing behind 99L.



they don't want to alarm people about something that hasn't even formed yet
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3135. BDAwx 1:08 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Bermuda could be threatened by TD2 in a few days and ya USA really needs to pay attention to what's behind it because it looks pretty intense a few weeks out or was it days more fascinated by what was happening than the time stamp my bad..
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3138. reedzone 1:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
So anything new on this "Bill" wave?


Well the EURO now makes it a Hurricane if that's anything new, oh yea.. It also hits the northern Islands. My local news is talking about that particular wave which is coming off the African Coastline today.
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3139. claimsadjuster 1:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Good Morning StormW how are you today?
3140. WAHA 1:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
So anything new on this "Bill" wave?

Well, it probably won't be "Bill" if you ask me.
3141. caribbeansurvivor1 1:10 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Good morning to everyone! The "Atlantic sleeping beauty is very awake now! Wow!! I went to bed at 1 am and there were just two investement and now are 3!! 99l still fighting with the shear and SAL! Going west to the Antilles!! Like other guys said...no good feeling!
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3142. indianrivguy 1:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
mornin' Senior Chief
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3143. Claudette1234 1:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
O1C at Central Pacific becomes

TS MAKA

Date : 11 AUG 2009 Time : 123000 UTC
Lat : 13:56:15 N Lon : 171:46:59 W


CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
2.9 /1001.0mb/ 43.0kt


Final T# Adj T# Raw T#
(3hr avg)
2.9 3.1 3.7
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3144. WAHA 1:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
...or at least doesn't hit land.
3145. Stormchaser2007 1:11 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quick 'Bill' wave update as of 12Z

It appears that the 850mb vort max is moving off the coast now. We should see a slow to gradual organization trend for the next 48 hours as this generally moves WNW. Conditions appear excellent for organization due to all the moisture left behind from TD2. Shear is about 8 knots and should stay to 5-15 knots throughout the next 72 hours. We should see the NHC mention this by later today.

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3147. extreme236 1:12 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting Stormchaser2007:
Quick 'Bill' wave update as of 12Z

It appears that the 850mb vort max is moving off the coast now. We should see a slow to gradual organization trend for the next 48 hours as this generally moves WNW. Conditions appear excellent for organization due to all the moisture left behind from TD2. Shear is about 8 knots and should stay to 5-15 knots throughout the next 72 hours. We should see the NHC mention this by later today.



Thanks for the info.
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3148. marknmelb 1:12 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Ok The GFS that shows a "son of Andrew" next weekend hitting south Florida. Was that TD#2 or what is behind TD#2 ???
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3149. claimsadjuster 1:12 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Well woke up to what you are seeing now. It looks like it is time to track.
3150. WAHA 1:12 PM GMT on August 11, 2009    
Quoting caribbeansurvivor1:
Good morning to everyone! The "Atlantic sleeping beauty is very awake now! Wow!! I went to bed at 1 am and there were just two investement and now are 3!! 99l still fighting with the shear and SAL! Going west to the Antilles!! Like other guys said...no good feeling!

99 is now Two, dude.

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