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New African disturbance 96L likely to develop
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:55 PM GMT on September 07, 2009 +1
A tropical wave (96L) that emerged off the coast of Africa yesterday has organized rather quickly, and will likely become a tropical depression by Tuesday night. Satellite imagery from the European satellite shows a well-organized circulation, but not enough heavy thunderstorm activity near the center of circulation to be considered a tropical depression. The storm is far enough south that the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer is not a major impediment to development. Wind shear is moderate, 10 - 15 knots, and ocean temperatures are 1 - 2°C above the threshold needed for tropical cyclone formation.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of 96L, off the coast of Africa. The remains of disturbance 95L, which are under 30 - 40 knots of wind shear, can be seen at upper left.

The forecast for 96L
Most of the models develop 96L, and the chances are that this disturbance will become Tropical Storm Fred later this week. The system will initially move west-northwest, but by Thursday, a strong trough of low pressure passing to 96L's north will pull the storm to the northwest, and may be capable of fully recurving the storm to the northeast. However, most of the models foresee that 96L will not move far enough north for this to happen, and that the storm will have to wait for the next trough of low pressure. With the steering pattern for this year continuing to feature plenty of deep troughs of low pressure moving off the U.S. East Coast, the odds of 96L making it all the way across the Atlantic to threaten land areas appear low. Still, much that is unexpected can and does happen in the world of tropical meteorology, and 96L bears watching.

North Carolina low
An area of concentrated thunderstorms has developed off the North Carolina coast in association with the remains of an old cold front. This system is under about 20 - 30 knots of shear, and is not tropical. However, it will bring heavy rain to eastern North Carolina today and Tuesday, as the storm slides north-northeastward along the coast.

I'll have an update Tuesday.

Jeff Masters
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503. presslord 7:07 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:
One can only dream, I guess.....sigh. PressLord, the proof is inside of the fiscal pudding, dig it up.


Dig WHAT up?!?!?! I know what I make...
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504. Cavin Rawlins 7:07 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting cchsweatherman:


Right now, my estimate is closer to the MET than the SAB. Would say a 2.0 should be about right for Invest 96L right now given the nice curved band pattern.


right on
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507. cchsweatherman 7:08 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting extreme236:
Yes I'm sensing an upgrade very soon

AL, 96, 2009090718, , BEST, 0, 124N, 239W, 30, 1005


With those numbers, I'm expecting to see a renumbering issued very soon.
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508. nrtiwlnvragn 7:09 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 0 120N 219W 25
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 12 121N 245W 35
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 24 122N 268W 40
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 36 129N 290W 45
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 48 137N 310W 55
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 48 137N 310W 55
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 72 163N 335W 55
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 72 163N 335W 55
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 96 185N 345W 50
AL 96 2009090712 03 OFCL 120 205N 345W 45
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510. Stoopid1 7:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting StSimonsIslandGAGuy:
Actually, Mike and I together make more than double Avila's salary. We have a good life.


Wow, the progression of topics around here is amazing. The salary I make as an E-3 in the navy isn't that much, but the benefits and low overhead more than make up for it. I'm not sure what Avila makes, but the $2.5 million figure sounds like worth to me.
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511. Cavin Rawlins 7:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Multiplatform, satellite winds are up to 28 knots
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512. presslord 7:10 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
sorry y'all...I just violated my new rule against quoting trolls...please forgive...
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514. will40 7:11 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting iceman55:
gfs take 96L back to west ???? help me out
Yes in that run it takes it back west
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515. Ameister12 7:11 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting StormSurgeon:
Gulf Sat.

Gulf

The GOM looks like it's on fire!!!
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517. presslord 7:11 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
post 513...so...again...How do you know what I make?
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519. canehater1 7:13 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
000
AGXX40 KNHC 071638
MIMATS

MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1230 PM EDT MON SEP 07 2009

MARINE WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR THE GULF OF MEXICO...CARIBBEAN SEA
AND SOUTHWEST NORTH ATLC S OF 31N W OF 55W.

GULF OF MEXICO...
A WEAK E-W TROUGH OVER THE NW COASTAL PLAINS WILL DISSIPATE
TONIGHT. A WEAK RIDGE EXTENDS NNE TO SSW ACROSS THE CENTRAL
WATERS. THE RESULT IS LIGHT WINDS ACROSS ALL ZONES. A WEAK
INVERTED TROUGH OVER THE WESTERN BAHAMAS IS EXPECTED TO DRIFT W
THROUGH THE FLORIDA STRAITS TONIGHT THROUGH WED NIGHT...THEN
CONTINUE NW REACHING THE CENTRAL GULF WATERS FRI. EXPECT THE
LATE AFTERNOON INTO EARLY EVENING INCREASE IN WINDS ALONG THE NW
YUCATAN COAST. INTENSE CONVECTION ENHANCED OVER THE SW GULF HAS
INDUCED A WEAK INVERTED TROUGH AND ITS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE FOR
A FEW DAYS WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF A WEAK LOW PRES DEVELOPING
ALONG THE TROUGH.

CARIBBEAN AND TROPICAL N ATLC...
ELY TRADES IN THE 20-25 KT RANGE OVER THE S CENTRAL CARIBBEAN
AND ELY 10-15 KT. WEAKENING LOW PRES AT 17N51W IS STILL EXPECTED
TO WEAKEN INTO A OPEN TROPICAL WAVE TONIGHT WITH THE WAVE
ENTERING THE E CARIBBEAN LATE TUE NIGHT AND MOVE THROUGH CENTRAL
CARIBBEAN WED THROUGH FRI. ANOTHER LOW PRES IN THE FAR E ATLC IS
EXPECTED TO RECURVE NW ALONG 34W-35W WED AND THU.

SW N ATLC...
A FEW WEAK TROUGHS ARE ANALYZED ACROSS THE AREA. ONE TROUGH
EXTENDING N-S ALONG 79W IS EXPECTED TO DRIFT E TO ALONG 77W WED
AND THU AND DISSIPATE BY FRI. AN INVERTED TROUGH OVER THE
CENTRAL BAHAMAS IS EXPECTED TO DRIFT SLOWLY W THROUGH THE
FLORIDA STRAITS TONIGHT THROUGH WED. AS THE TROUGHS MOVE W OF
AREA THE RIDGE WILL SHIFT TO PSN FROM BERMUDA TO CENTRAL FL WITH
SE-S 10-15 KT FLOW N OF 25N AND E-SE 10-15 KT WINDS S OF 25N.

WARNINGS
ATLC...
.NONE.

CARIBBEAN...
.NONE.

GULF OF MEXICO...
.NONE

$$
FORECASTER NELSON

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520. 954FtLCane 7:12 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:


Does anyone know what this moron is talking about?

Honestly I think he is trying to be overly cordial to try and get someone else suspended. In other words I think he's trying to bait some of the bloggers on here.
And the worst part is he's using spell check now.
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521. stormy2008 7:13 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Frying Pan Shoals Buoy 41013... pressure continues to drop. Currently 29.84 - down .07 mb since 12:50 pm.
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522. Dakster 7:13 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Presslord - Don't engage in a battle of wits with WS, don't you realize you are dealing with an unarmed opponent...

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523. Stoopid1 7:13 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:


Does anyone know what this moron is talking about?


Not a bit. One reason I DON'T have him on ignore yet is the occasional humor factor. How's Labor Day treatin' ya Press?
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524. presslord 7:14 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
he oughta try Grammar Check, as well...
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525. BiloxiIsle 7:14 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Just because WS will never see that kind of money, doesn't mean the rest of us won't or aren't already. What I make or do is none of your business WS, but I do very well, thank you.
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526. Thopfner 7:15 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting Ameister12:

The GOM looks like it's on fire.


I agree with u
527. presslord 7:15 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Dak and Stoopid make excellent points...
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529. JLPR 7:15 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
looking really nice


plus d-min is not weakening it
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531. extreme236 7:16 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


You asked for it, you bastard, admin notification, here I come. Unbelivable, I tell ya, I come in here in peace this afternoon, yet this ''OLD MAN'' insists on pushing my buttons for no apparent motive. Anyways, moving on. :)


Flagged.
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533. JLPR 7:17 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting Hurricane009:
I wonder what Dmax will do to it??


yes is it keeps this up 96L will be TD 7 really soon
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534. BurnedAfterPosting 7:17 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
WS quite the drama or dont post here at all

you are the one antagonizing people, oh and for your little curse word you put there in that last post, I hope they give you a permanent ban.
536. ElConando 7:18 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
I shall be known soon.
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537. presslord 7:18 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
at least he spelled the name he called me correctly...
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539. Cavin Rawlins 7:18 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
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541. CaicosRetiredSailor 7:19 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Image centered at Latitude= 17.34° N Longitude= 52.47° W





Tropical wave "Exposed" trying to make it
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544. StormSurgeon 7:20 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
post 513...so...again...How do you know what I make?


You make rope.
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545. 954FtLCane 7:20 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting presslord:
at least he spelled the name he called me correctly...


lol
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546. Stoopid1 7:21 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Looks like 96L should be TD 7 at 5 p.m. with a minimum pressure of 1005mb, max winds 35mph. 5 day track looks to take a WNW, then NW progression, followed by a shift to the WNW toward the end of the forecast. Beyond that... anyone's guess. TD 7 could be Fred by early tomorrow.
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548. Cavin Rawlins 7:21 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
JLPR,

the 00Z had a hurricane hitting the Leewards on September 20 2009, the anniversary of Georges. Also this month has the same calender date as September 1998 with the night of 20 September the faithful Sunday night that Georges struck.
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549. StormSurgeon 7:21 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
Quoting WeatherStudent:


You asked for it, you bastard, admin notification, here I come. Unbelivable, I tell ya, I come in here in peace this afternoon, yet this ''OLD MAN'' insists on pushing my buttons for no apparent motive. Anyways, moving on. :)


Lighten up dude.
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551. Tazmanian 7:22 PM GMT on September 07, 2009    
we now have TD 7


000
WHXX01 KWBC 071918
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1918 UTC MON SEP 7 2009

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

TROPICAL CYCLONE SEVEN (AL072009) 20090907 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
090907 1800 090908 0600 090908 1800 090909 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 12.4N 23.9W 13.0N 26.8W 13.7N 30.3W 14.1N 34.0W
BAMD 12.4N 23.9W 12.9N 26.5W 13.7N 28.9W 14.7N 31.1W
BAMM 12.4N 23.9W 13.0N 26.5W 13.8N 29.2W 14.7N 31.9W
LBAR 12.4N 23.9W 12.8N 26.5W 13.6N 29.3W 14.4N 31.9W
SHIP 30KTS 35KTS 42KTS 50KTS
DSHP 30KTS 35KTS 42KTS 50KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
090909 1800 090910 1800 090911 1800 090912 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 14.3N 37.3W 14.3N 40.2W 13.3N 38.6W 12.0N 36.1W
BAMD 15.9N 33.2W 19.2N 35.9W 22.4N 35.8W 24.6N 36.0W
BAMM 15.6N 34.4W 17.6N 37.3W 18.8N 37.4W 19.6N 37.2W
LBAR 15.4N 34.3W 17.9N 37.0W 22.5N 37.5W 26.4N 36.9W
SHIP 55KTS 63KTS 58KTS 48KTS
DSHP 55KTS 63KTS 58KTS 48KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 12.4N LONCUR = 23.9W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 15KT
LATM12 = 11.9N LONM12 = 20.9W DIRM12 = 277DEG SPDM12 = 13KT
LATM24 = 11.8N LONM24 = 17.8W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 60NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1005MB OUTPRS = 1009MB OUTRAD = 170NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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