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Unusually well-organized 92L disturbance may become a tropical depression
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:14 PM GMT on June 14, 2010 +3
Invest 92L, a remarkably well-developed African tropical wave for so early in the season, is midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands. Infrared satellite loops show a modest area of heavy thunderstorms along the north side of 92L's center of circulation, and the storm's heavy thunderstorms activity appears to be slowly increasing in intensity and areal coverage. Upper-level outflow is apparent to the west and north of 92L, and the outflow has been gradually improving this morning. Visible satellite loops do not show much in the way of low-level spiral bands, and my current take from the satellite imagery is that 92L is slowly organizing, and will not become a tropical depression any earlier than 11pm EDT tonight (Monday.) A 4:27 am EDT pass from the WINDSAT satellite saw a partially closed circulation at the surface (open on the south side), with top surface winds of 25 - 30 mph north of the center.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Invest 92L (left side of image) and a vigorous new tropical wave that has moved off the coast of Africa (right side.) None of models develop the new tropical wave, but it bears watching.

Sea surface temperatures
Climatology argues against development of 92L, since only one named storm has ever formed between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands in the month of June--Tropical Storm Ana of 1979 (Figure 2). However, sea surface temperatures (SSTs) underneath 92L are an extremely high 28°C, and will increase to 29°C by Thursday. In fact, with summer not even here, and three more months of heating remaining until we reach peak SSTs in the Atlantic, ocean temperatures across the entire Caribbean and waters between Africa and the Lesser Antilles are about the same as they were during the peak week for water temperatures in 2009 (mid-September.)

Dry air not a problem for 92L until Wednesday
The disturbance doesn't have to worry about dry air today or Tuesday--Total Precipitable Water (TPW) loops show a very moist plume of air accompanies 92L, and water vapor satellite loops show that the center of 92L is at least 200 - 300 miles from any substantial areas of dry air. As 92L continues to push northwest, though, the SHIPS model is predicting that relative humidity at middle levels of the atmosphere will fall from the current value of about 70%, to 60% on Wednesday. This dry air may begin to cause problems for 92L on Wednesday, especially since wind shear will be increasing at the same time. Tropical cyclones are more vulnerable to dry air when there is substantial wind shear, since the strong winds causing the shear are able to inject the dry air deep into the core of the storm.

Madden-Julian Oscillation
The 60-day cycle of enhanced thunderstorm activity called the Madden-Julian Oscillation is currently favoring upward motion over eastern tropical Atlantic, and this enhanced upward motion helps create stronger updrafts and higher chances of tropical cyclone development.


Figure 2. Tropical Storm Ana of 1979 was the only June named storm on record to form between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands.

Wind shear
A major issue for 92L, like it is for most June disturbances, is wind shear. The subtropical jet stream has a branch flowing through the Caribbean and tropical Atlantic north of 10° N that is bringing 20 - 40 knots of wind shear to the region. Our disturbance was located near 10°N, 40°W at 8am EDT this morning, a few hundred miles south of this band of high shear, and is currently only experiencing 5 - 10 knots of shear. This low amount of shear should allow for some steady development of 92L over the next two days as it tracks west-northwest or northwest at 15 mph. The latest run of the SHIPS model is predicting the shear will rise to 20 knots on Wednesday, which may start to cause problems for 92L.

The forecast for 92L
The National Hurricane Center is giving 92L a high (60% chance) of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday morning, which is a reasonable forecast. The odds of development have increased since yesterday, as the storm has moved considerably to the northwest, away from the Equator. Now it can leverage the Earth's spin to a much greater degree to help get it get spinning. It is quite unusual for a tropical depression to form south of 8°N latitude.

I expect that 92L's best chance to become a tropical depression will come on Tuesday, and the storm could strengthen enough by Wednesday to be named Tropical Storm Alex. The farther south 92L stays, the better chance it has at survival. With the system's steady west-northwest movement this week, 92L will probably begin encountering hostile wind shear in excess of 20 knots by Wednesday, which should interfere with continued development. Several of our reliable models do develop 92L into a tropical storm with 40 - 55 mph winds, but all of the models foresee weakening by Thursday or Friday as 92L approaches the Lesser Antilles Islands and encounters high shear and dry air. I doubt 92L will be anything stronger than a 45 mph tropical storm when it moves through the northern Lesser Antilles Islands on Friday and Saturday, and it would be no surprise if wind shear has destroyed the storm by then. However, as usual, surprises can happen, and the GFS and the SHIPS model (which is based upon the GFS) do indicate that more modest levels of wind shear in the 15 - 20 mph range late this week may allow 92L to stay stronger than I'm expecting. Residents of the islands--particularly the northern Lesser Antilles--should follow the progress of 92L closely, and anticipate heavy rains and high winds moving through the islands as early as Thursday night.

Oil spill wind forecast
There is little change to the oil spill wind forecast for the coming two weeks. Light winds of 5 - 10 knots mostly out of the south or southeast will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico all week, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. These winds will keep oil near the coast of Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, and the extreme western Florida Panhandle, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range 8 - 16 day forecast from the GFS model indicates a typical summertime light wind regime, with winds mostly blowing out of the south or southeast. This wind regime will likely keep oil close to the coastal areas that have already seen oil impacts over the past two weeks.

Jeff Masters
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901. kuppenskup 6:54 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Good afternoon!


Hello sir, I always get a little goosebump whenever I see you post on here.
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902. scott39 6:55 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Way too early to tell if it will make the GOMEX or not...forecast steering maps only go out to 144 hours...we're talking about at the least 7-8 days before the Yucatan Channel.
Thank you for keeping it real!
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903. tornadodude 6:55 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
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905. SouthALWX 6:57 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Major hurricanes are affected as well. You commonly see the core ring of convection around a major hurricane's eye go through slight cloud-top temperature changes with the diurnal cycles.

yeah, but I didnt need to make that argument to prove the point =P TS are much more affected and proves the point better I think :) Thanks for the back up tho!
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906. CaneWarning 6:57 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:

NRAamy?


No, Amy is his wife. NRA is not the same Amy.
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907. kanc2001 6:57 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
You can't post pics when using Safari, and the iPad only supports Safari as a browser.


try the Opera browser app
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909. Levi32 6:58 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
2005:



2010:


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910. louisianaboy444 6:58 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting kuppenskup:


Hello sir, I always get a little goosebump whenever I see you post on here.


LOL
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911. scott39 6:59 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Levi, What happens at 46W if 92L makes it?
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912. Fl30258713 6:59 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


Ike is right..this blog is a rollercoaster when it looks good its alive and anyone who disagrees is a "troll" and same for when its struggling a bit and everyone calls it dead...i think what people on this blog fail to realize is that tropical formation is a long slow process your going to have times when it needs life support but times when it will fire right back up...people are looking for rapid answers and it just doesnt happen in that fashion....i wish people here could be more passive instead of...ITS ALIVE ITS DEAD ITS ALIVE....i guess it just comes with experience


Just so you know, some of us are quietly reading and keeping our opinions to ourselves.:-)
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913. MississippiWx 6:59 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting kuppenskup:


Hello sir, I always get a little goosebump whenever I see you post on here.


Here's the gazillionth JFV name I'll have on my ignore list. Seriously, get a freaking life.

I think 92L got a little overhyped yesterday, mainly because of it being embedded in the ITCZ. The amount of convection associated with it was deceiving because of the amount of moisture it had available. Now that it detached from the ITCZ, it encountered shear and a drier environment. If it doesn't make a comeback with convection tonight during DMAX, I think you can forget about 92L for good (at least until it passes the shear).
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914. DaytonaBeachWatcher 6:59 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting kuppenskup:


Hello sir, I always get a little goosebump whenever I see you post on here.


LOL that could be good or bad.
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916. cg2916 7:00 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Hey guys, I am using speech recognition. It is very cool.
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917. Levi32 7:00 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Levi, What happens at 46W if 92L makes it?


It hits warmer SSTs which may help it, and by then the upper trough to its south that is plaguing it should be gone, but they are pesky and are hard to forecast.
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918. bballerf50 7:01 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
2005:



2010:




Those waters off the NW Bahamas are absolutely sizzling. I would hate to see anything pass through there. Of course, the rest of the ATL is also signific warmer than 05
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919. Chicklit 7:01 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
It wants to go west.



L'il bugger just may do that. IRLoop/a>
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921. Levi32 7:01 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting WindDamage:


geeze, levi, what's that pink shade SE of miami? that's incrediable.


That's what happens to the shallow waters around Florida and the Bahamas when you have a permanent ridge with sunny weather sitting over the area for weeks on end.
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922. stillwaiting 7:02 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting tornadodude:


this isnt JFV or Oz, I emailed him to double check, and it is in fact Amy :P





yea its Ozs' wife, not JFV or the great OZ!!!
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924. cg2916 7:03 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
You know what, I might RIP 92L, because it is getting disorganized but not yet.
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925. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 7:03 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
2005:



2010:


boiling seas
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927. CaneWarning 7:04 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting cg2916:
You know what, I might RIP 92L, because it is getting disorganized but not yet.


Why don't we just wait and let the NHC RIP it for us?
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928. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 7:04 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:

So what % do you give 92L if it makes it to 46W
twenty percent
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930. futuremet 7:05 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    


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931. MiamiHurricanes09 7:05 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
GFDL and HWRF have no idea what to do with 92L, intensity-wise.

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932. Levi32 7:05 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:

So what % do you give 92L if it makes it to 46W


I don't deal in statistical probabilities. I continue to technically give 92L a high chance to become a tropical depression, but that's because I believe it already is and has been. It has the look of a struggling tropical cyclone. The NHC will be the NHC....they are like this with events that take place outside of climatology. They will avoid classifying it if possible.

As for whether I think it will remain a significant and defined system as it approaches the islands, I'll give it a moderate chance.
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933. scott39 7:05 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
I dont think 92L likes what its wearing today! It will eventually find a nice suit to wear on the ride of its TC life, or it will be buried in rags soon!
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934. MiamiHurricanes09 7:06 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
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935. nocaneindy 7:06 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Is anyone having trouble getting Cimss products to load? I cannot bring up anything related to it.
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936. IKE 7:07 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting CaneWarning:


It isn't everyone on here. The ones that get all excited about it tend to be the young ones who will post a million times. Those of us who know how these things tend to work don't post a million times about it.


That's true.


Not much left of 92L as it approaches the islands on the 12Z ECMWF. But what is that entering the Caribbean at the end of the run? Is that the wave behind 92L?
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937. cg2916 7:07 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    


Not looking too hot.
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938. scott39 7:07 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


It hits warmer SSTs which may help it, and by then the upper trough to its south that is plaguing it should be gone, but they are pesky and are hard to forecast.
Thanks
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939. Chicklit 7:07 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Looks like it's growing legs again, doesn't it MH09?
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940. futuremet 7:08 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
As I thought, 12Z ECMWF develops the wave behind 92L.
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941. Relix 7:08 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
I am still impressed how a so good looking system turned to nothingness. Wow.
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942. MiamiHurricanes09 7:08 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


I don't deal in statistical probabilities. I continue to technically give 92L a high chance to become a tropical depression, but that's because I believe it already is and has been. It has the look of a struggling tropical cyclone. The NHC will be the NHC....they are like this with events that take place outside of climatology. They will avoid classifying it if possible.

As for whether I think it will remain a significant and defined system as it approaches the islands, I'll give it a moderate chance.
I think 92L was a tropical depression yesterday and possibly a tropical storm. I am pretty sure that the NHC will never classify 92L anymore, but was it a TD, yes.
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944. Levi32 7:09 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting futuremet:
As I thought, 12Z ECMWF develops the wave behind 92L.


Dang....look at these things wanting to pop one after another already.
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945. IKE 7:09 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting futuremet:
As I thought, 12Z ECMWF develops the wave behind 92L.


I saw that too. It looks sheared to me with all of the convection away from the center.
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946. Chicklit 7:10 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Hi Relix, it's not over yet. 92L is still spinning, still over warm water. Looks like the southerly portion is getting into the act again.
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947. Patrap 7:10 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
18z Early Cycle NHC model tracks
Invest92
Statistical/Simple Models (CLIPER,BAMs,LBAR,other Statistical Models)





Dynamic Models (More sophisticated models)



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948. futuremet 7:10 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


Dang....look at these things wanting to pop one after another already.


The upcoming waves will have a much higher chance of developing. This is substantiated by the 12Z ECMWF.
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949. CaribBoy 7:10 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
GFDL and HWRF have no idea what to do with 92L, intensity-wise.



Obviously
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950. Levi32 7:11 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting altesticstorm10:

The shear's going to continue to diminish ahead of 92L as it trucks westward?


It will increase to weak-moderate levels over the system as it approaches the TUTT but will then remain the same as the equatorial ridge begins to push the TUTT northward. By the time 92L gets to the islands, upper-level conditions overhead will be just as favorable as they have been for the last couple days. Upper ridging will be across the entire MDR by the end of this week.
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951. Levi32 7:11 PM GMT on June 14, 2010    
Quoting futuremet:


The upcoming waves will have a much higher chance of developing. This is substantiated by the 12Z ECMWF.


I'm surprised to see the Euro taking a bite already.
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