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Tropical wave 92L weakens but could bring heavy rains to Haiti
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:23 PM GMT on June 20, 2010 +3
The tropical wave (92L) that brought heavy rains of 2 - 5 inches to Puerto Rico on Saturday is continuing westward at 10 - 15 mph, but has grown very disorganized. The National Hurricane Center is no longer interested enough in this wave to classify it as an "invest" worthy of generating computer forecasts for. Today through Monday, 92L will encounter 20 - 40 knots of wind shear as it plows though a region of strong upper-level winds associated with the subtropical jet stream. The disturbance will also encounter the mountainous terrain of Hispaniola and Cuba. If there is anything left of 92L after crossing these mountains, it may have the opportunity to develop beginning on Tuesday, when it will enter a region of wind shear less than 20 knots near central Cuba. None of our reliable computer forecast models is calling for 92L to develop once it reaches this region of lower wind shear. I give 92L a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday. The storm could bring heavy rains of up to four inches to Haiti today and Monday. Rain of four inches are probably the lower threshold for life-threatening floods to occur in the Haiti earthquake zone, and this disturbance poses the most serious flooding threat Haiti has seen since the earthquake.


Figure 1. Radar estimated rainfall over Puerto Rico from Invest 92L.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS and ECMWF models call for a possible tropical depression to form in the central or western Caribbean next weekend, 6 - 8 days from now.

Wind and ocean current forecast for the BP oil disaster
Southeast to east winds less than 10 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico Monday through Thursday, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The resulting weak ocean currents should cause little motion of the oil slick, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range outlook calls for a continued summertime weather pattern of weak winds over the Gulf of Mexico during the coming two weeks.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image from NASA's MODIS instrument of the Deepwater Horizon oil slick from Saturday, June 19, 2010.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool allows one to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Happy Father's Day, all you fathers out there, and I'll have an update on Monday.

Jeff Masters
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1201. pottery 1:41 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting viman:


Nicer in de pot, steam down with a butta sauce, and some okra fungi on de side... :)

You makin me dribble, Man!
heheheh
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1202. MiamiHurricanes09 1:41 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:
Nice wave rolling off Africa ATM. Shear is very low but, dry air in the region. May not cause too many problems though as it is out ahead of the wave a good distance. Vorticity is good.

Looks good on satellite. This could be a big problem down the road.
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1203. louisianaboy444 1:41 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
To me anybody that calls someone a downcaster or a wishcaster needs to get banned that is getting very old and inmature
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1205. CaneWarning 1:42 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
To me anybody that calls someone a downcaster or a wishcaster needs to get banned that is getting very old and inmature


Or mentions the word crow...
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1206. xcool 1:42 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
interesting week come yayy
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1207. tropicfreak 1:42 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Looks good on satellite. This could be a big problem down the road.


we're talking at least a week and a half away
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1209. MiamiHurricanes09 1:42 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
To me anybody that calls someone a downcaster or a wishcaster needs to get banned that is getting very old and inmature
I'm just lurking and staying out of it.
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1210. CyclonicVoyage 1:43 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Looks good on satellite. This could be a big problem down the road.


Shear below 15N is almost Nil, kinda scary.
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1211. WatchingThisOne 1:43 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
To me anybody that calls someone a downcaster or a wishcaster needs to get banned that is getting very old and inmature


Dunno about banned, but yes it is getting very very old.
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1212. viman 1:43 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting pottery:

You makin me dribble, Man!
heheheh


Yeah, ah really need to stop, it have 2 pcs left in the fridge and I'm almost ready to take one out and light up de stove. lol
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1213. MiamiHurricanes09 1:44 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting tropicfreak:


we're talking at least a week and a half away
I'm talking 5 days. Conditions are very favorable in the MDR and I wouldn't be surprised to see that wave pull off a "92L", except with a much more frightening outcome.
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1215. xcool 1:44 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    


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1216. louisianaboy444 1:44 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting CaneWarning:


Or mentions the word crow...


Well thats fine but its when your trying to prove a valid forecast with evidence and someone calls you a wishcaster or a downcaster for it....i only have one blogger on my ignore list and it is because he called me a downcaster repeatedly...i mean grow up come on lol
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1218. MiamiHurricanes09 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting CyclonicVoyage:


Shear below 15N is almost Nil, kinda scary.
Plus you barely have dry air in the ITCZ and hot SSTs, I wouldn't be surprised to see this thing take off soon.
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1219. BahaHurican 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Evening all. I wasn't planning to post 2night, but felt it was warranted after reading this.
Quoting sammywammybamy:


Actually , i havent been trolling , i took a long hypothetical mental break from the blog and decided to purse my education. I AM NOT A TROLL.IVE NEVER TROLLED. I HAVE GROWN UP. and i do need glasses, my main provocative comment was stating "Chill its only june". yet you consider my credibility as if i had walked into a bank with a mask. everyone has a right for a second chance , and i belive i have grown up so i deserve it.If i had trolled i would have been permd banned. im sorry for my statement but i do not deserve such public outcry, i was simply stateting my false opinon. but the NHC currently gives no area in the atlantic a chance of development.

Thank you
For newcomers, sammy has been around on the blog for a couple of years, and is usually the person who organizes the [more or less annual] record run on the tropics chat, IIRC. While sammy has had his annoying moments, I would not characterize him as a troll. In fact, his comment fits climatology more than some of the others I've seen 2day [four named storms by the 28th? a bit unusual, shall we say].

Lets not get overly confrontational just because someone else's view doesn't fit the general mood of the blog.

And sammy, other than climatology, why do u think nothing's going to form in the next 6 weeks?
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1220. xcool 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
sammywammybamy i think so
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1221. pottery 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:
To me anybody that calls someone a downcaster or a wishcaster needs to get banned that is getting very old and inmature
I take objection to "old and immature".
Seeing as how I have been trying to perfect that combination of attributes, for years.
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1222. Drakoen 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


Yea i seen you saying that but i've heard both sides contradicting that...Who knows i will just wait till we have a concrete system thats why i hate models lol


MH09 is confusing people with his posts, the lesser Antilles wave and the Venezuelan trough will be interacting to produce the storm in the Caribbean. The area the models show in the bahamas is the tropical wave out in the middle of the tropical Atlantic not the lesser Antilles disturbance.
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1223. CaneWarning 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


Well thats fine but its when your trying to prove a valid forecast with evidence and someone calls you a wishcaster or a downcaster for it....i only have one blogger on my ignore list and it is because he called me a downcaster repeatedly...i mean grow up come on lol


Yeah, I know who that is.
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1224. Tazmanian 1:45 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
the Ignore User is no good with the Quote
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1225. Hurricanes101 1:46 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


MH09 is confusing people with his posts, the lesser Antilles wave and the Venezuelan trough will be interacting to produce the storm in the Caribbean. The area the models show in the bahamas is the tropical wave out in the middle of the tropical Atlantic not the lesser Antilles disturbance.


exactly
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1227. MiamiHurricanes09 1:46 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:
We are in a neutral year for the atlantic basin correct?
We are neutral right now but are forecasted to get to a weak to moderate La Niña by September.
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1229. BahaHurican 1:47 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    


Where's the dry air in the MDR?
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1230. MiamiHurricanes09 1:47 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


MH09 is confusing people with his posts, the lesser Antilles wave and the Venezuelan trough will be interacting to produce the storm in the Caribbean. The area the models show in the bahamas is the tropical wave out in the middle of the tropical Atlantic not the lesser Antilles disturbance.
That's not what I see on the models.
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1231. Tazmanian 1:47 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
93L by AM
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1232. stormpetrol 1:48 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting viman:


I went trolling the other day, caught 2 barracudas, 2 bonitos, 1 kingfish (24lbs - nice one) and 1 blackfin tuna. :)
sound like you live in grand cayman with that catch lol
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1233. 7544 1:48 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:
93L by AM



really hmmm
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1234. xcool 1:48 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Tazmanian hey
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1235. Stormchaser2007 1:48 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


MH09 is confusing people with his posts, the lesser Antilles wave and the Venezuelan trough will be interacting to produce the storm in the Caribbean. The area the models show in the bahamas is the tropical wave out in the middle of the tropical Atlantic not the lesser Antilles disturbance.


Yeah, I didnt think it would.
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1237. Tazmanian 1:48 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting xcool:
Tazmanian hey



hi
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1238. louisianaboy444 1:49 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


MH09 is confusing people with his posts, the lesser Antilles wave and the Venezuelan trough will be interacting to produce the storm in the Caribbean. The area the models show in the bahamas is the tropical wave out in the middle of the tropical Atlantic not the lesser Antilles disturbance.


See thats what i was thinking all along i thought i may have been wrong...
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1240. Tazmanian 1:49 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting btwntx08:
looks like things are about to take off real fast




yup
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1241. alaina1085 1:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting louisianaboy444:


I've grown up eh? Tried that statement with my ex-girlfriend...it doesnt work :)

Lol... good stuff.
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1242. viman 1:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
I'm out, good night all. I'm going to fall asleep to the sound of the rain falling on the banana tree leaves before the rain stops. l8ta is gr8ta.
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1243. bballerf50 1:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
We are neutral right now but are forecasted to get to a weak to moderate La Niña by September.


According to Dr. M it is by July. No offense, but you seem to make many false statements and misguide ppl. The newly shaded area in the SE Carib is not the SFL storm, as Drak pointed out. Just saying...
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1244. 7544 1:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
hey x cool btw are these areas worth watching at dmax tonight u think we might see them blow up tia
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1245. Stormchaser2007 1:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
If we get a well defined circulation with an anticyclone overhead out of this disturbance, watch out.

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1246. HurrikanEB 1:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting sammywammybamy:



Yes, im watch i belive e will have are first storm mid july, and that will comence the onslaught.


Last time Alex didnt form until about the 31st of July. And 2004 was definitely and onslaught
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1250. Drakoen 1:51 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
That's not what I see on the models.


Which is incorrect.
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1251. xcool 1:51 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
btwntx08 yep get ready for busy night sir.
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