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Tropical wave 92L weakens but could bring heavy rains to Haiti
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:23 PM GMT on June 20, 2010 +3
The tropical wave (92L) that brought heavy rains of 2 - 5 inches to Puerto Rico on Saturday is continuing westward at 10 - 15 mph, but has grown very disorganized. The National Hurricane Center is no longer interested enough in this wave to classify it as an "invest" worthy of generating computer forecasts for. Today through Monday, 92L will encounter 20 - 40 knots of wind shear as it plows though a region of strong upper-level winds associated with the subtropical jet stream. The disturbance will also encounter the mountainous terrain of Hispaniola and Cuba. If there is anything left of 92L after crossing these mountains, it may have the opportunity to develop beginning on Tuesday, when it will enter a region of wind shear less than 20 knots near central Cuba. None of our reliable computer forecast models is calling for 92L to develop once it reaches this region of lower wind shear. I give 92L a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Saturday. The storm could bring heavy rains of up to four inches to Haiti today and Monday. Rain of four inches are probably the lower threshold for life-threatening floods to occur in the Haiti earthquake zone, and this disturbance poses the most serious flooding threat Haiti has seen since the earthquake.


Figure 1. Radar estimated rainfall over Puerto Rico from Invest 92L.

Elsewhere in the tropics
The NOGAPS and ECMWF models call for a possible tropical depression to form in the central or western Caribbean next weekend, 6 - 8 days from now.

Wind and ocean current forecast for the BP oil disaster
Southeast to east winds less than 10 knots will blow in the northern Gulf of Mexico Monday through Thursday, according to the latest marine forecast from NOAA. The resulting weak ocean currents should cause little motion of the oil slick, according to the latest trajectory forecasts from NOAA and the State of Louisiana. The long range outlook calls for a continued summertime weather pattern of weak winds over the Gulf of Mexico during the coming two weeks.


Figure 2. Visible satellite image from NASA's MODIS instrument of the Deepwater Horizon oil slick from Saturday, June 19, 2010.

Resources for the BP oil disaster
My post, What a hurricane would do the Deepwater Horizon oil spill
My post on the Southwest Florida "Forbidden Zone" where surface oil will rarely go
My post on what oil might do to a hurricane
NOAA's interactive mapping tool allows one to overlay wind and ocean current forecasts, oil locations, etc.
Gulf Oil Blog from the UGA Department of Marine Sciences
Oil Spill Academic Task Force
University of South Florida Ocean Circulation Group oil spill forecasts
ROFFS Deepwater Horizon page
Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) imagery from the University of Miami

Happy Father's Day, all you fathers out there, and I'll have an update on Monday.

Jeff Masters
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2201. weathermanwannabe 11:44 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Good Morning......Gonna be in lurk mode most of the day (long day at work today) but very interesting to see how much sheer is starting to drop, and has dropped, along the Southern Caribbean and just north of the ITCZ in the mid-Atlantic......The last piece of the puzzle (low sheer values) are starting to fall into place as we head towards July.....Things should really open up as soon as the TUTT lifts up which is still causing a sheer band to the North.
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2202. NCHurricane2009 11:46 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting Dr3w:


So that thing popped out of nowhere. Thanks Hurricanes (:


Nope, that's the impressive tropical wave that came off of Africa behind 92L. It just hasn't been making much activity till now because it hasn't been under a favorable outflow environment till now.
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2203. MiamiHurricanes09 11:48 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:


Nope, that's the impressive tropical wave that came off of Africa behind 92L. It just hasn't been making much activity till now because it hasn't been under a favorable outflow environment till now.
Sorry don't know what you are talking about. I told him about the shaded AOI by the lesser Antilles, not a tropical wave that came off of Africa.
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2204. sebastianflorida 11:49 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Sorry don't know what you are talking about. I told him about the shaded AOI by the lesser Antilles, not a tropical wave that came off of Africa.
June is usually a quiet month for development without much activity to consider. This year is a bit different in that we have had one wave that we have watcher over the week, 92L, that has been torn up.

This week we have another wave in the eastern Caribbean that some of the models are picking up on, it it currently near the lesser Antilles, and at the moment, is not being tracked as an investigation area.

Attention is being placed upon it based on long range models at the moment, because one (the ECMWF/euro and Canadian models) have presented the "high hype" scenario into the Gulf. This means it's worth watching over the next few days, but that scenario right now is currently a bit of a stretch . But it will be an area to watch over the week to see where it goes and if it survives the trek across the Caribbean.
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2206. KoritheMan 11:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Latest SST anomaly map:



Look at how ridiculously warm the Gulf and western Atlantic are.
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2207. WPBHurricane05 11:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Someone spiced up ECMWF's coffee.




Mother nature pissed off at BP.....Too bad she punishes the Gulf coast residents too.
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2208. MiamiHurricanes09 11:50 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Super ouch!

Lol. Well I'm out, have a good day all.
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2209. 7544 11:51 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
morning looks like every model here wants to bring some kind of system to so fla at 144 check the the 850,s see for yourself .

takes the wave we are watching over cuba and smaks it into so fla . check it here

Link
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2210. KoritheMan 11:52 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
000
ABNT20 KNHC 211152
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT MON JUN 21 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

A LARGE AREA OF DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE
EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA IS ASSOCIATED WITH A WESTWARD-MOVING TROPICAL
WAVE. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR GRADUAL
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS
WAVE COULD PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS OVER
PORTIONS OF NORTHERN VENEZUELA...THE LESSER ANTILLES...THE VIRGIN
ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC...AND HAITI OVER THE
NEXT DAY OR SO. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
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2211. IKE 11:52 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
74 degrees this morning outside.
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2212. Stormchaser2007 11:53 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
gradual development...interesting.
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2214. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:54 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
ten more TWO's should do it
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2215. IKE 11:54 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR GRADUAL
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.


(1)93L.
(2)Trouble.
(3)Media blasting all over the airwaves about the oil volcano/GOM system?
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2216. NCHurricane2009 11:54 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Sorry don't know what you are talking about. I told him about the shaded AOI by the lesser Antilles, not a tropical wave that came off of Africa.


I have been following the NHC surface analysis daily (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/tafb/ATSA_06Z.gif).

I believe the AOI in the E Caribbean today is the tropical wave that came off of Africa days ago. This tropical wave was the impressive one that came off of Africa right behind 92L. Tropical wave's have to be followed on surface analyses because they are not always well-defined on satellite imagery. Tropical waves can be "silent," then suddenly blow up convection when it finds a favorable environment, making things look like they pop out of nowhere.
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2217. stormwatcherCI 11:55 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 AM EDT MON JUN 21 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A LARGE AREA OF DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE
EASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA IS ASSOCIATED WITH A WESTWARD-MOVING TROPICAL
WAVE. ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR GRADUAL
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
THIS
WAVE COULD PRODUCE LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS OVER
PORTIONS OF NORTHERN VENEZUELA...THE LESSER ANTILLES...THE VIRGIN
ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC...AND HAITI OVER THE
NEXT DAY OR SO. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF THIS
SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

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2218. Walshy 11:58 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting IKE:
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR GRADUAL
DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.


(1)93L.
(2)Trouble.
(3)Media blasting all over the airwaves about the oil volcano/GOM system?



2010 Atlantic Hurricane Season to be remembered for the "Catastrophic Oil Cane".



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2219. weatherwatcher12 11:59 AM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting 7544:
morning looks like every model here wants to bring some kind of system to so fla at 144 check the the 850,s see for yourself .

takes the wave we are watching over cuba and smaks it into so fla . check it here

Link

Impossible to tell at 144 hours.
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2221. weathermanwannabe 12:00 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS = very low sheer, and very warm waters, ahead of it right now for the next several days. Definately something to watch carefully.
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2222. MahFL 12:00 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
When StormW says "super ouch" you knows it's bad !
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2224. NCHurricane2009 12:01 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Well after the 8 AM outlook, that's a wrap for me this morning.

Yep, I think I am going to predict first TD out of the season with this one because the environment looks good. Hopefully I won't be eating crows with this one like I did with 92L. I hope I am wrong though, better not to have tropical cyclones near land.
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2226. oceanblues32 12:03 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Ok anything new going on suince last night I am in se florida just above miami should I be concernd about anything
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2227. RJT185 12:04 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
Super ouch!




Super Ouch?
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2228. weathermanwannabe 12:04 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Understatement?


:)..........Believe me, by around 11:00 am, when the rest of the "folks" arrive, they will start calling for a cat 5 over the Gulf Horizon.....Lol
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2229. IKE 12:04 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Understatement?


NHC=Conservative.
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2230. 7544 12:05 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting NCHurricane2009:
Well after the 8 AM outlook, that's a wrap for me this morning.

Yep, I think I am going to predict first TD out of the season with this one because the environment looks good. Hopefully I won't be eating crows with this one like I did with 92L. I hope I am wrong though, better not to have tropical cyclones near land.



nice blow up ther at 67w 13 n is this the area that could become 93l soon .
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2231. IKE 12:05 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting weathermanwannabe:


:)..........Beleive me, by around 11:00 am, when the rest of the "folks" arrive, they will start calling for a cat 5 over the Gulf Horizon.....Lol


And that's when this blog losses it.

Best time to be on here is now...earlier mornings.
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2232. DaytonaBeachWatcher 12:05 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
I would like to see 93L purely so that we can have the floater moved over this AOI and watch it.
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2234. FLWeatherFreak91 12:06 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
From Tampa AFD: A TROPICAL WAVE IS FORECAST TO MOVE
THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN AND DEPENDING ON WHICH MODEL YOU LIKE
EVENTUALLY INTO THE SOUTHEAST GULF OR INTO THE BAHAMAS EARLY NEXT
WEEK. FOR NOW HAVE GENERALLY GONE ALONG THE LINES OF THE GFS WHICH
KEEPS IT WEAK AND MOVES IT INTO THE SOUTHEAST GULF. BASED ON THIS
SCENARIO THE OVERALL FORECAST FOR THE LONG TERM PERIOD WILL REMAIN
UNCHANGED WITH A GENERAL EASTERLY FLOW PERSISTING AND SCATTERED
MAINLY AFTERNOON AND EVENING THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING EACH DAY WITH
THE SEA BREEZES.
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2235. WxLogic 12:06 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Good morning...
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2237. IKE 12:07 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting P451:


Fuel for the fire.
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2238. NCHurricane2009 12:08 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting StormW:


Ya know what fellas...it doesn't matter where it came from...what matters, and focus should be put on, what's it going to do now.


That's true for now, but someone at the NHC has to write a post-storm synoptic history on this thing if it develops into a tropical cyclone, and they've got to understand its origins.

I also think its interesting to understand the deep-origins of a tropical cyclone to understand why this stuff happens.
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2239. IKE 12:08 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
From Tampa AFD: A TROPICAL WAVE IS FORECAST TO MOVE
THROUGH THE CARIBBEAN AND DEPENDING ON WHICH MODEL YOU LIKE
EVENTUALLY INTO THE SOUTHEAST GULF OR INTO THE BAHAMAS EARLY NEXT
WEEK. FOR NOW HAVE GENERALLY GONE ALONG THE LINES OF THE GFS WHICH
KEEPS IT WEAK AND MOVES IT INTO THE SOUTHEAST GULF. BASED ON THIS
SCENARIO THE OVERALL FORECAST FOR THE LONG TERM PERIOD WILL REMAIN
UNCHANGED WITH A GENERAL EASTERLY FLOW PERSISTING AND SCATTERED
MAINLY AFTERNOON AND EVENING THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING EACH DAY WITH
THE SEA BREEZES.


They may have to change that outlook based on what the NHC is saying.
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2240. Tazmanian 12:09 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
looks like will have 93L at any time
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2243. stormwatcherCI 12:10 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    


Maybe sooner than we think ? This one certainly has MY attention. If things pan out as expected not looking good for the Cayman Islands.
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2244. weathermanwannabe 12:11 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
If this one actually makes TD status, with two storms in the e-pac, I will gladly eat my crow with regard to calling for no development in the Atlantic Basin until July when the e-pac "cleared out".......No telling what can happen but would be surprised, and a little unnerved, if we had a few simultaneous storms in the e-pac and atlantic at the same time.....Tropics are full of surprises every year.
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2246. IKE 12:12 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting StormW:
2231. IKE 8:05 AM EDT on June 21, 2010 Hide this comment.

Quoting weathermanwannabe:


:)..........Beleive me, by around 11:00 am, when the rest of the "folks" arrive, they will start calling for a cat 5 over the Gulf Horizon.....Lol



And that's when this blog losses it.

Best time to be on here is now...earlier mornings.


Agree with you both...and if this thing does what it could, it's gonna be a good time to use the ignore button, as there will be no time for any BS on Doc's blog.


Thinking about heading to your blog...lol.

I agree with your statements. Admin won't tolerate anything on here. I'm like others...I wish WU would require a $10 annual fee to be on here. That would cut out a lot of the problems.
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2247. FLWeatherFreak91 12:12 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting IKE:


They may have to change that outlook based on what the NHC is saying.
yeah. Our office is very reluctant to mention the tropics when models start showing things. They want an actual system to form first.
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2250. IKE 12:13 PM GMT on June 21, 2010    
Quoting FLWeatherFreak91:
yeah. Our office is very reluctant to mention the tropics when models start showing things. They want an actual system to form first.


I can see their point, there's just a lot more at stake this year in the GOM.

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