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Invest 95L Brushes Louisiana Coastline
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 12:42 AM GMT on July 06, 2010 +3
Hi all,

Dr. Rob Carver, filling in for Jeff this week.

Midnight CDT Update
The low known as Invest 95L stopped it's northward progression and is now moving west along the Louisiana coastline. This is the oddest mesoscale convective complex/tropical feature I've seen in awhile. It's still producing a lot of rain, 2+ inches inland and 6+ inches over the ocean.


Base reflectivity from Lake Charles, LA at 11PM July 5 showing a very nice comma head. Animated loop.


Invest 95L is making landfall now in southern Louisiana near Terrebonne Bay. A CMAN station in Terrebonne Bay is currently reporting winds from the SE at 21 mph and the pressure is 1009 mb. Looking at the radar data, Invest 95L never had convection around the center of circulation. Also, it was hard to see a distinct surface circulation in the different analyses available. I believe soaking rains for southern Lousisana are going to be Invest 95L's main legacy. It's already produced 5+ inches of rain in some offshore locations according to radar-derived rainfall estimates.


Fig. 1 Meteogram for TRBL1 in Terrebonne Bay, LA. Tabular data are here.


Fig. 2 Base reflectivity from New Orleans, LA at 706PM, July 5. Animated loop.

Invest 96L
430 AM Update
In sum, the 00Z model runs don't present a different picture. It is curious to note that the Canadian Global model does not intensify 96L at all in the 00Z run, while NOGAPS has shifted towards a SE Louisiana landfall. I think the following discussion is still valid.

96L is going to be an interesting feature to forecast. It's still on the edge of a strong wind shear gradient. 40+ knots of shear are on the NE side of 96L, and <10 knots are on the SW side. The "center" of 96L is under about 15 knots of shear. This is likely inhibiting 96L. Nearly all forecast models take 96L NW through the Yucatan peninsula and into the Gulf of Mexico. Near the Yucatan itself, sea-surface temperatures are relatively cool, not the best environment for intensification. However, at 25N, 87W there is a hotspot of SST's, which would promote rapid intensification. However, there's currently 20 knots of shear over the hotspot, so the thunderstorms that do form as a result will be well ventilated, and not cause 96L to intensify.

The dynamical models have different takes on how 96L intensifies in the next 120 hours. The 18Z operational GFS strongly intensifies 96L over the hotspot and takes 96L towards Grand Isle, LA. The parallel (for testing model configuration changes) GFS has a similar track, but does not strengthen 96L as much. This indicates uncertainty on how the models are handling the upper-level winds.

The 18Z HWRF solution is much like the parallel GFS solution. The 12Z Canadian global model has a more westerly track, pushing 96L towards Port Arthur, but it strengthens 96L right before it makes landfall, not when it's over open water. NOGAPS takes the "a little from column A, a little from column B" approach, with a spinup over the hotspot (op. GFS solution), but a westerly landfall (the Canadian solution). More data to initialize the models from synoptic reconnaissance flights will help reduce uncertainty.

The bottom line, 96L will move into the Gulf of Mexico and is then shrouded by the mists of uncertainty. I also think that it's a possibility (>50%) that it will become a tropical cyclone sometime in the next 48-72 hours (leaning towards sometime in day 2-3 based on the model runs.)


Fig. 3 Plot of maximum winds (mph) for the next 120 hours from the 18Z July 5 GFS model run.Parallel GFS version.


Fig. 4 Plot of maximum winds (mph) for the next 120 hours from the 18Z July 5 HWRF model run.


Fig. 5 Plot of maximum winds (mph) for the next 120 hours from the 12Z July 5 CMC global model run.NOGAPS wind swath.

Next update
I'll probably tweak this blog later tonight as new model runs come in. I'll have a full update tomorrow afternoon (Pacific time).

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1901. hydrus 10:25 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:
this is the 1st time that i have not seen JFV come back on with a new name in 24hrs
You did it now Taz.....I see the shower curtain..how is that disturbance doing in the Gulf?
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1903. StormSurgeon 10:26 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:


Bonnie?
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1904. Tazmanian 10:26 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
You did it now Taz.....I see the shower curtain..how is that disturbance doing in the Gulf?



doing good
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1905. Patrap 10:26 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MississippiWx:


You make a good point, but one thing you forget is that the convection associated with the Central GOM is under 20-30kts of shear because of the upper level anticyclone which is almost directly over the center of the circulation over the Yucatan. That is what will end up giving the Yucatan circulation the advantage. It is starting to make its way back over water now.


Maybe take a Gander at the GOM IR loop. Shear is das Kaput and a warm column may be forming.

Shear, Like gas..always passes
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1906. JLPR2 10:27 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting HurricaneSwirl:


That GOM low your seeing is *probably* the former LLC of 96L that basically said "screw you" and went racing off to the TX/LA border.


haha!
These year we seem to have some very strong mid level circulations with the surface lacking.

So is it easier for a circulation to go from the mid levels downwards or the other way around?
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1907. Levi32 10:27 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



hmmm are you JFV???


Knock it off Taz....
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1908. MiamiHurricanes09 10:27 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MississippiWx:


You make a good point, but one thing you forget is that the convection associated with the Central GOM is under 20-30kts of shear because of the upper level anticyclone which is almost directly over the center of the circulation over the Yucatan. That is what will end up giving the Yucatan circulation the advantage. It is starting to make its way back over water now.
I'm eagerly awaiting for the 21:00 UTC graphical updates from CIMSS to see how the 850mb vorticity has progressed, along with the location of the anticyclone.
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1909. washingaway 10:28 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
I think we're gonna need another floater
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1910. MiamiHurricanes09 10:28 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



hmmm are you JFV???
He's not. Just stop. JFV always comes back with a handle picture and a name like "LaNina" or "THCP".
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1911. itrackstorms 10:28 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
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1912. Orcasystems 10:28 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
I will keep it updated. The Gulfstream IV-SP (G-IV) (Reg. Num. N49RF) was out laying a pattern also.



AOI
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1913. hydrus 10:29 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MississippiWx:


You make a good point, but one thing you forget is that the convection associated with the Central GOM is under 20-30kts of shear because of the upper level anticyclone which is almost directly over the center of the circulation over the Yucatan. That is what will end up giving the Yucatan circulation the advantage. It is starting to make its way back over water now.
The circulation over land looks stronger. Once it exits the water temps are only marginal because of Alex.
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1914. JLPR2 10:29 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
He's not. Just stop. JFV always comes back with a handle picture and a name like "LaNina" or "THCP".


Actually I'm rather impressed those handles were even available LOL!
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1915. GeoffreyWPB 10:29 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
We most likely will get Bonnie out of 96L within a few days.
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1917. CosmicEvents 10:29 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Its a Tale Of 2 GOM's today..

The west,Dry..and the East wetts
It's a West Side Story.
The sharks vs. the jets.
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1918. muddertracker 10:30 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
96 looks like a stage of mitosis.
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1919. MississippiWx 10:30 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
I'm eagerly awaiting for the 21:00 UTC graphical updates from CIMSS to see how the 850mb vorticity has progressed, along with the location of the anticyclone.


I'm not impressed at all with the Central GOM area. I see a slight cyclonic rotation, but it's not even half-way closed off. It will run into land before it ever gets started due to the fast Southeasterly flow it is embedded in.
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1920. Levi32 10:30 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


haha!
These year we seem to have some very strong mid level circulations with the surface lacking.

So is it easier for a circulation to go from the mid levels downwards or the other way around?


In the tropics it is easier for a surface circulation to build upwards because that is what tropical cyclones do naturally. Working a mid-level circulation down to the surface is harder.
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1921. MiamiHurricanes09 10:30 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting GeoffreyWPB:
We most likely will get Bonnie out of 96L within a few days.
It will have to be within a few days or else it will move overland.
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1922. Hardcoreweather2010 10:30 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Did 95L have a baby ?

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1923. MiamiHurricanes09 10:31 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I'm not impressed at all with the Central GOM area. I see a slight cyclonic rotation, but it's not even half-way closed off. It will run into land before it ever gets started due to the fast Southeasterly flow it is embedded in.
Nor am I. Basically a naked cyclonic swirl in the middle of the GOM.
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1924. StormSurgeon 10:32 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting hydrus:
You did it now Taz.....I see the shower curtain..how is that disturbance doing in the Gulf?


96L is right where the NHC forcasted....mid gulf. Most lost him but I've been following. 97L later. Hello Pat.
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1925. Patrap 10:32 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Seems schul is in again on the wunderground..

LOL
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1926. JLPR2 10:32 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Hardcoreweather2010:
Did 95L have a baby ?



that's one big baby considering 95L's size LOL!
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1927. Tazmanian 10:32 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
He's not. Just stop. JFV always comes back with a handle picture and a name like "LaNina" or "THCP".


ok
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1928. Levi32 10:32 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Hardcoreweather2010:
Did 95L have a baby ?



No the mid-level center and the surface center got divorced. You don't usually get children in that situation...
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1929. JLPR2 10:33 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


In the tropics it is easier for a surface circulation to build upwards because that is what tropical cyclones do naturally. Working a mid-level circulation down to the surface is harder.


ha!, nice thanks for clearing that up :)
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1930. MiamiHurricanes09 10:33 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
21:00 UTC CIMSS 850mb vorticity shows a stronger NE Yucatan circulation and a weaker "low" in the middle of the GOM.

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1931. beell 10:34 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
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1932. MiamiHurricanes09 10:34 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Anticyclone now over the vort max.

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1934. msgambler 10:34 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
I'm getting a little more impressed with the GOM circulation than the Yucatan circulation, IMO.
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1935. StormSurgeon 10:35 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Seems schul is in again on the wunderground..

LOL


Purple drank, gold chains. At least JM held up the colors........
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1936. JLPR2 10:35 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
the mid gulf is hotter than the area where the mid circulation should be landing



In other words, I think that the surface circulation might be up to something.
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1937. Patrap 10:35 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
#1934

..U betcha
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1938. justasking 10:35 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
No, I'm not the infamous JFV. And I've never owned a fish shower curtain in my life. But, have taken a few meteorology classes at TAMU in CS, and have been a fan of weather my whole life. Enough about me though, back to the tropics!
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1939. scott39 10:36 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the NHC draw smaller and larger circles, because developement can happen inside that circle?
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1940. jeffs713 10:36 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:


No the mid-level center and the surface center got divorced.

What did they do with the house, though? ;)
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1941. Levi32 10:36 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
The upper anticyclone over the mid-level low indicates that the main heat buildup is still over the Yucatan instead of farther north. Lots of thunderstorms will continue to go off in the northern gulf due to the big surge of southeast wind that is creating strong convergence. A surface trough in this situation is not particularly likely to close off.
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1942. MiamiHurricanes09 10:37 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
96L's circulation stacked somewhat in the 500mb through 850mb levels.
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1943. Levi32 10:37 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting scott39:
Correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the NHC draw smaller and larger circles, because developement can happen inside that circle?


Pretty much, but the circle is usually centered over where they think the center of the disturbance is. The size of the circle generally corresponds to the size of the disturbance.
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1944. MississippiWx 10:38 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Anticyclone now over the vort max.



Very consistent with satellite imagery as well. A blow up of convection over the Central GOM doesn't mean that the circulation there is taking over. A lot is going on there to cause that convection. I don't believe it has anything to do with a surface circulation. Has more to do with diffluent flow aloft, a trof of lower surface pressures and a lot of moisture. The area over the Yucatan is still the one to watch.
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1945. Tazmanian 10:38 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting justasking:
No, I'm not the infamous JFV. And I've never owned a fish shower curtain in my life. But, have taken a few meteorology classes at TAMU in CS, and have been a fan of weather my whole life. Enough about me though, back to the tropics!



ok i was this makeing sure
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1946. Levi32 10:39 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
The Yucatan low has vorticity stacked at all levels up to 500mb. The surface trough in the central gulf is limited to 850mb.



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1947. JLPR2 10:39 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MississippiWx:


Very consistent with satellite imagery as well. A blow up of convection over the Central GOM doesn't mean that the circulation there is taking over. A lot is going on there to cause that convection. I don't believe it has anything to do with a surface circulation. Has more to do with diffluent flow aloft, a trof of lower surface pressures and a lot of moisture. The area over the Yucatan is still the one to watch.


Considering that one is over land and the other over water, yeah, that could explain why convection is moving to the other for the moment, well...
I have no idea then LOL! XD
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1948. HurricaneKyle 10:39 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting MiamiHurricanes09:
Anticyclone now over the vort max.



Defiantly a positive note for 96L, with an anti-cyclone situated over head shear will be less of an issue. And vort as you mentioned has increased over the Yucatan another sign that the MLC is indeed beginning to take over as the main circulation of 96L.
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1950. JLPR2 10:41 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
Quoting Levi32:
The Yucatan low has vorticity stacked at all levels up to 500mb. The surface trough in the central gulf is limited to 850mb.





check out the one near 40W and 10N it shows up on both maps too, well I hope convection stays far away from it :)
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1951. StormSurgeon 10:41 PM GMT on July 06, 2010    
sorry, what low?

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