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97L continues to grow more organized; headed for Bahamas and Florida
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:07 PM GMT on July 20, 2010 +1
A tropical wave (Invest 97L) between Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic has continued to become more organized today, and is a threat to develop into a tropical depression as early as Wednesday morning. The disturbance has brought heavy rains of 8+ inches to Culebra and Vieques islands over the past day, and all of Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are under flash flood watches today. The storm could bring an additional 3 - 6 inches of rain to the islands over the next two days. The upper level low centered a few hundred miles north of the Dominican Republic is no longer bringing high levels of wind shear to 97L; wind shear has fallen to the moderate range, 10 - 15 knots, which should allow 97L to continue to develop today. Satellite images of 97L show a moderate area of steadily organizing thunderstorms, with curved bands developing to the north and east of the center. There are no signs of a surface circulation on satellite imagery or on the 10:38am EDT ASCAT pass. Surface observations show only light winds over Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic, but the surface winds at Punta Cana on the eastern tip of the Dominican Republic have shifted to the west this afternoon, indicating that a surface circulation may be forming just north of that location. Long-range radar loops from San Juan do not show any evidence of a surface circulation. The Hurricane Hunter mission scheduled for today was canceled, but is scheduled to fly Wednesday afternoon.


Figure 1. Total precipitation from 97L as predicted by the 12Z (8 am EDT) July 20, 2010 run of the HWRF model. Image credit: Morris Bender, NOAA/GFDL.

Track Forecast for 97L
The storm is in a fairly straightforward steering current environment, and 97L should progress steadily to the west-northwest through Saturday. The rains from 97L's thunderstorms will bring the threat of isolated flooding to the Dominican Republic today and Wednesday, and to Haiti on Wednesday and Thursday. Heavy rains from 97L will begin moving into eastern Cuba, the Turks and Caicos Islands, and the eastern Bahamas on Wednesday, and South Florida can expect heavy rains to arrive as early as Thursday night. The latest suite of model runs from 8am EDT this morning (12Z) foresee a more northerly track for 97L into Central Florida. Several models develop 97L into a tropical storm, with both the GFDL and HWRF models predicting 97L will hit South or Central Florida as a tropical storm on Friday. Most of the models have 97L entering the Gulf of Mexico on Saturday, but the amount of time 97L has over the Gulf may be limited to a day or less if the storm ends up exiting into the Gulf near Tampa Bay. The NOGAPS model predicts a more southerly path across South Florida and into Louisiana.

Intensity Forecast for 97L
One factor potentially aiding development of 97L will be the Madden-Julian oscillation, which currently favors upward motion over the Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean. The Madden-Julian oscillation is a pattern of enhanced rainfall that travels along the Equator from west to east. The pattern has a wet phase with large-scale rising air and enhanced thunderstorm activity, followed by a dry phase with large-scale sinking air and suppressed thunderstorm activity. Each cycle lasts approximately 30 - 60 days. When the Madden-Julian oscillation is in its wet phase over a hurricane-prone region, the chances for tropical storm activity are greatly increased. Also in favor of development are the warm ocean temperatures of 29°C. The SHIPS model predicts shear will stay in the moderate range, 10 - 20 knots, over the next five days. The primary detriment to development of 97L over the next three days will probably be the presence of dry, stable air in its path over the Bahamas, thanks to the upper-level low to the north of the Dominican Republic. If the center forms close to the coast of the Dominican Republic, the high mountains of Hispaniola may also be a problem for the storm. NHC is giving 97L a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Thursday, which is a reasonable forecast. I think there is a 70% chance 97L will eventually become Tropical Storm Bonnie, sometime in the next five days. Sudden rapid development today or on Wednesday is unlikely, due to the dry air over the Bahamas. I put the odds of 97L making it to hurricane strength before reaching Florida at 30%, and I give a 20% chance it will be a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. The probability of 97L being a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico will depend heavily upon how long the storm spends over land or interacting with land over the next four days, which is very uncertain.

"Hurricane Haven" airing again this afternoon
Tune into another airing of my live Internet radio show, "Hurricane Haven", at 4pm EDT today. Listeners will be able to call in and ask questions. The call in number is 415-983-2634, or you can post a question in the comments area on my blog during the show. You can also email the questions to me today before the show: jmasters@wunderground.com. Be sure to include "Hurricane Haven question" in the subject line. Some topics I'll cover today on the show:

1) Invest 97
2) A look ahead at the coming two weeks

Today's show will be about 45 minutes, and you can tune in at http://www.wunderground.com/wxradio/wubroadcast.h tml. The show will be recorded and stored as a podcast.

Jeff Masters
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1151. SeniorPoppy 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
We'll get the hurricane hunter aircraft with Pasch in it and throw him out of the plane to see if he can feel a WSW wind.
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1152. jurakantaino 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i think 97L is what there off the coast of PR
Agree im about 30 miles from that point and im getting soak with rain and some squalls... and the waves are about 7 feet high.
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1153. AllStar17 11:43 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting jasoniscoolman2010x:
wow i see that upper low its moving south right into invest 97L THAT UPPER LOW WILL PUT SOME DRY AIR RIGHT INTO INVEST 97L THAT WILL KILL THIS STORM.


Really? Then why did you post a fake tropical weather outlook that said 70%?
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1154. ackee 11:44 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
any one notice that 97L seem to be consolidated over the vergin Island suface low may be trying to form there
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1156. Tazmanian 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


possible, convergence moved towards 20N 65W



seem about right that 30 line is right under that big red ball of t-storms wish i all so i see a spin
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1157. HarleyStormDude52 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
GOM development is underplayed... SW LA- SW TX... Guess we will see more tomorrow!
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1158. msgambler 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:


Dats a good way to look at it always.

The early Worm never gets da Bird.
Well, I don't care what my wife says. I ain't as dumb as she says I am...LOL
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1159. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:




can we keep all none weather reateed photos off the blogs un less you want too risk geting banned

orca gets a hall pass taz sorry
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1160. Tazmanian 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting jurakantaino:
Agree im about 30 miles from that point and im getting soak with rain and some squalls... and the waves are about 7 feet high.



yup
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1162. MississippiWx 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


possible, convergence moved towards 20N 65W


The circulation center could definitely reform a few times before consolidating into one dominate area.
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1163. sailingallover 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
looks like the center of 97L may be reforming north of puerto rico Link

Thats probably colder dry air coming off the mountains as nighttime cooling sets in...causing that big inverted V shaped clear area to the NE
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1164. SeniorPoppy 11:45 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Board up the windows! A tropical disturbance is foretasted to be in the South Florida area by Friday evening. Sarcasm flag: MAX.
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1165. Tazmanian 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting jasoniscoolman2010x:
ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT TUE JUL 20 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A VIGOROUS TROPICAL WAVE...LOCATED NEAR THE EASTERN DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC...IS PRODUCING A LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
EXTENDING FROM THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS WESTWARD TO HISPANIOLA.
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT A CLOSED CIRCULATION HAS NOT YET
FORMED. HOWEVER...ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
FAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION AS THE SYSTEM MOVES
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT ABOUT 10 MPH DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE... 70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR A TROPICAL STORM DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS
WILL LIKELY AFFECT THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...THE DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC... HAITI...EASTERN CUBA...THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS...
AND THE BAHAMAS DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THE HEAVY RAINS
COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES IN
MOUNTAINOUS AREAS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.



re ported



its %60 you need too stop posting that
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1166. NttyGrtty 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Patrap:
Womp..wahhhhhhhh

Still yanking the Lawn mower cord..

"Rummmbllllpghhhphhh...,Rummmbllllpghhhphhh"....





Patrick, with all the folks out of work, and you being the age that you are, you're still yank'n your own cord?...Hmmmmm
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1167. CybrTeddy 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
I do see a lot of dry air to the W of 97L but I don't see it actually going into the circulation rather than being eroded by the large moisture field of 97L.
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1168. AllStar17 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting jasoniscoolman2010x:
ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
800 PM EDT TUE JUL 20 2010

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

1. A VIGOROUS TROPICAL WAVE...LOCATED NEAR THE EASTERN DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC...IS PRODUCING A LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
EXTENDING FROM THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS WESTWARD TO HISPANIOLA.
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT A CLOSED CIRCULATION HAS NOT YET
FORMED. HOWEVER...ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
FAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION AS THE SYSTEM MOVES
WEST-NORTHWESTWARD AT ABOUT 10 MPH DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
THERE IS A HIGH CHANCE... 70 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A
TROPICAL DEPRESSION OR A TROPICAL STORM DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
REGARDLESS OF DEVELOPMENT...LOCALLY HEAVY RAINFALL AND GUSTY WINDS
WILL LIKELY AFFECT THE VIRGIN ISLANDS...PUERTO RICO...THE DOMINICAN
REPUBLIC... HAITI...EASTERN CUBA...THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS...
AND THE BAHAMAS DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THE HEAVY RAINS
COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS AND MUD SLIDES IN
MOUNTAINOUS AREAS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.


Reported. Enjoy your 24 hour plus ban for multiple offenses.
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1169. JLPR2 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



seem about right that 30 line is right under that big red ball of t-storms wish i all so i see a spin


If it reform again I think I will go nuts LOL
This system seems to be a little too undecided, like I said when 92L was around, form or poof already! XD
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1170. Drakoen 11:46 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Santo Domingo reporting winds from the NNW and Punta Cana reporting winds out of the WSW.
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1171. AllStar17 11:47 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



re ported



its %60 you need too stop posting that


Man, you're quick!
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1172. Tazmanian 11:47 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting AllStar17:


Reported. Enjoy your 24 hour plus ban for multiple offenses.



+20
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1173. AllStar17 11:47 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Santo Domingo reporting winds from the NNW and Punta Cana reporting winds out of the WSW.


Indicating?
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1174. unf97 11:47 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Well, gang, it's all speculation at the moment of where a LLC is located until the Hurricane Hunters get in there tomorrow.
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1175. HarleyStormDude52 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
jasoniscoolman2010x: YOU ARE HALLUCINATING AND JUST TRYING TO STIR THE POT.. COME BACK DOWN!! THE AIR IS TOO THIN WHERE YOU ARE
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1176. scott39 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting jasoniscoolman2010x:
wow i see that upper low its moving south right into invest 97L THAT UPPER LOW WILL PUT SOME DRY AIR RIGHT INTO INVEST 97L THAT WILL KILL THIS STORM.
You have been saying this since last night and NHC keeps increasing the %. Hope your right and thier wrong, but I doubt it.
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1177. Twinkster 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
you know this blog is getting ridiculous. I post weather info/ask if anyone can see my posts and the someone has to comment that I have the worst handle ever.

I have been commenting on this blog since 2006 and every year it gets worse.

I am done posting here forever
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1178. AllStar17 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:



+20


LOL. No need for this nonsense. It will likely become a TD tomorrow and there is no need for this crap to be posted for people who come on here for correct and informative information.
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1179. Drakoen 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting AllStar17:


Indicating?


A closed circulation may be trying to get going.
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1180. Tazmanian 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting HarleyStormDude52:
jasoniscoolman2010x: YOU ARE HALLUCINATING AND JUST TRYING TO STIR THE POT.. COME BACK DOWN!! THE AIR IS TOO THIN WHERE YOU ARE



+10
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1181. JLPR2 11:48 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Santo Domingo reporting winds from the NNW and Punta Cana reporting winds out of the WSW.


Well look at that, seems 97L does have a LLC somewhere.
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1182. plywoodstatenative 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Someone explain to me how this wave is not feeding off of the lower caribbean wave?
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1184. Tazmanian 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting AllStar17:


LOL. No need for this nonsense. It will likely become a TD tomorrow and there is no need for this crap to be posted for people who come on here for correct and informative information.



that was a funny and a good post so i ave you a + for it
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1185. Seflhurricane 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:
Santo Domingo reporting winds from the NNW and Punta Cana reporting winds out of the WSW.
yeap i just noticed the observations too i dont quite understand how it could not have a llc Help me out here i am not getting it
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1186. CybrTeddy 11:49 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
NHC will not upgrade unless one of two things happen.

1) Next ASCAT pass revels a closed circulation and surface obs. support it.

2) Recon tomorrow finds a closed circulation.
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1187. JLPR2 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Twinkster:
you know this blog is getting ridiculous. I post weather info/ask if anyone can see my posts and the someone has to comment that I have the worst handle ever.

I have been commenting on this blog since 2006 and every year it gets worse.

I am done posting here forever


No man! Don't leave like that, ignore the monkeys! :S
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1188. SeniorPoppy 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
I do see a lot of dry air to the W of 97L but I don't see it actually going into the circulation rather than being eroded by the large moisture field of 97L.


It might inhibit development a little bit but it definitely won't kill the disturbance like crazy man was posting.
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1190. jurakantaino 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Im sick too im tire of so much rain, now in Aguadilla, P.R. we are getting very heavy rain.Maybe interaction with land is making it hard for the center of circulation to consolidate?
Quoting sailingallover:

I second that!!! if 97L does not get a circulation soon to suck this convection away the VI's and PR are going to erode away and be gone.....
Either that or it is going to be a meso scale complex which start to feed it's own convection and we will have a TS on top of us...
BUT
Remember it could be worse....it could have developed way east of here and stalled over us like this and wiped the islands clean....
AND
Remember
Every joule of energy removed now is one less for later in the season..... :)
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1191. xcool 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
jasoniscoolman2010x .be nice ok .thanks.
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1192. AllStar17 11:50 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Drakoen:


A closed circulation may be trying to get going.


Yup. I'd agree with that. I can see a circulation north of DR on this loop, with convection firing over it. A good DMAX tonight, and I'd venture to say this is a TD at least tomorrow.
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1193. msgambler 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Twinkster:
you know this blog is getting ridiculous. I post weather info/ask if anyone can see my posts and the someone has to comment that I have the worst handle ever.

I have been commenting on this blog since 2006 and every year it gets worse.

I am done posting here forever
Twinkster, iggy them. They are not worth it.
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1194. GoodOleBudSir 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting weatherman12345:

seriously there are some people trying to learn about this system, your false information doesnt help


please do not quote this post.
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1195. MississippiWx 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Based on those winds, where would you put a possible center formation? I'm not very familiar with the islands. I'm not so sure that the center is where it was earlier and I think it is reforming a little farther east.
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1196. Twinkster 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Seflhurricane:
yeap i just noticed the observations too i dont quite understand how it could not have a llc Help me out here i am not getting it


this is my last post.

I think either there might be multiple vortices fighting for control or it is just one broad circulation not completely closed yet. I believe based on surface obs that a llc is forming and the NHC is waiting for recon tomorrow to confirm it unless it gets obviously evident overnight tonight
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1197. Tazmanian 11:51 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
if jasoniscoolman2010x keeps doing that on the too he this may vary well be lock up in WU jail
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1198. HarleyStormDude52 11:52 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting JLPR2:


No man! Don't leave like that, ignore the monkeys! :S


Ditto.. plus more ditto! Who cares what your handle is...
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1199. plywoodstatenative 11:52 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Okay on the subject of a COC, someone since I do not want to blow up the size of the blog, go onto the Navy site and get the zoomable visible sat from Goes. It does show what appears to be a closed center.
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1200. UpperLevelLOL 11:52 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
Quoting Tazmanian:




can we keep all none weather reateed photos off the blogs un less you want too risk geting banned


holy cow duder come down off your high horse and relax a bit, jeez.

Also yeah the cloud field is large, but there's not a lot of thunderstorm activity...
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1201. oddspeed 11:52 PM GMT on July 20, 2010    
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