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| Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:23 PM GMT on September 30, 2010 | +5 |




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Jeff co-founded the Weather Underground in 1995 while working on his Ph.D. He flew with the NOAA Hurricane Hunters from 1986-1990.
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Hey Bob, as always very good. Thank you and we will be alert but I am bulllish on 97
97L - what can you say... at least the models are not showing a CAT 3 anymore like last night.
AOI
TS BUSTED FORECAST ALIBI
a) You know as well as I do that an active September is no guarantee of an active October. It's already one for the record books, no question, but I'd hold the 20 storm prediction as fact for longer, yet.
You are absolutely correct that a busy September doesn't guarantee a busy October. In fact, the opposite could be said, at least for the past 15 seasons: of the two years with eight September storms, one had but a single October storm, and the other had exactly zero. (And the two seasons with seven September storms only managed to squeeze out five named storms in total.) But as has often been pointed out, there are few if any indications that this year is similar to those. To begin with, SSTs are still at or near record highs...and while that alone won't drive cyclogenesis, it certainly helps. Yes, it's possible borderline, short-lived Nicole may have been it for the year. But I am seriously doubting that possibility.
b.) I'm not aware of who has been stating that this season is a bust for a considerable time. Perhaps as I am not here for the evening shifts as it is called, that I've missed those declarations.
I've followed the narrative of the season pretty closely, and am always amused at those--and I see them here every day, including this morning--who consistently narrow their definition of what constitutes a "non-busted season". Originally it was raw storm numbers; that morphed into CONUS hits, which in turn morphed into devastating CONUS hits. IOW, a record busy period, with multiple deaths and billions of dollars in damage outside the US, aren't enough. (Extrapolating, I'd guess that many of these folks would say that only a Cat 4 coming through their own city would be enough to allow them to remove the "bust" label...though even a few might then say, "Yes, the storm hit our city, but the eyewall missed my house, so BUST!!!")
c.) There is always the risk of becoming just as absolute on the argument as the counter side. The discussion on here seems to boil down to 'it's really active!' vs 'it's a bust!' without any thought to the middle.
Well, in this case, the absolutes seem to be on the side of the "active" season folks, don't they? Based on most expert early predictions of a very active to hyperactive year, this season hasn't disappointed. Anyone saying otherwise is simply ignoring fact.
It is active yes, but how active? Is it really as hyperactive as it looks on face value?
I've not commented much on your many postings suggesting that the reason things look so busy these last few decades is due in very large part to pre-satellite undercounts of marginal storms. You may be right (though I also believe there may have been early overcounts, where, say, a CV-type storm noticed in the Windward Islands was counted as a separate entity a week later when it made landfall in Texas)--but even if you are, there's no doubt that the tropics this year, and in 2005, and in 1995, and so on, have been more active than "normal", however one defines that term.
Very refreshing here in SEFL this morning too, almost went in to the office late and hung out at the beach for an hour.
You're welcome. There's no tuition, though I'm sorry to say no course credit can or will be offered. ;-)
LOL.
Is it me or is the CMC overshooting intensity for 97L? Plus it is curving it out in the ocean now....
Looks miserable for golf. Bubba Watson looked like a drowned rat this morning.
Just my 2 cents.
The forward motion of this storm is very slow. This slow forward motion leaves the ultimate path up for debate.
Collapsing thunderstorms...
Maybe the Upper mid level high is Capping it rather than providing outflow?
The path is up for debate until/if it develops.
DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS CONTINUE IN ASSOCIATION WITH
A LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER LOCATED ABOUT 900 MILES EAST OF
THE LESSER ANTILLES. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE FORECAST TO BECOME
SOMEWHAT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND THERE IS A MEDIUM
CHANCE...40 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD OR WEST-NORTHWESTWARD
AT 15 TO 20 MPH.
http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/phod/dataphod1/work/HHP/NEW/2010273at.jpg
I guess I could clarify my comments. Invest 97 is expected to slow down. This slow down will have a bearing on development and path. I'm still on the fence if this thing will really develop. The influence of that big ULL will have a major bearing on the future of this storm.
The models showed a Cat4 or 5 hitting FL for close to a week prior and during Matthew and Nicole...and look at what we got....nada. They have there uses...but I put FAR less credence in them now.
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