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Not a trace of Don; What's next?
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 7:41 PM GMT on July 30, 2011 +33
Don is dead

Tropical Storm Don, the fourth named storm of the 2011 season, made landfall near Baffin Bay, Texas yesterday evening around 10pm CDT in less-than-grand fashion. The storm was looking very weak for the 24 hours before landfall, but fizzled rapidly after landfall, and by early Saturday morning, there was barely a trace of the storm to show that it even existed in the first place.

NHC Hurricane Specialist Eric Blake probably said it best in this mornings 5am EDT discussion on the storm:

THE DON IS DEAD. THE CYCLONE LITERALLY EVAPORATED OVER TEXAS ABOUT
AS FAST AS I HAVE EVER SEEN WITHOUT MOUNTAINS INVOLVED. DON HAS NO
CONVECTION...MEAGER RAINFALL...AND ONLY A SLIGHT SIGNATURE IN
SURFACE OBSERVATIONS AND RADAR DATA. THEREFORE...THIS IS THE LAST
ADVISORY ON THIS SYSTEM.


Figure 1. Total precipitation accumulation for the storm, estimated by radar.

The heaviest rainfall was falling south of the storm's center yesterday, so it wasn't surprising that Brownsville saw the most rain, 0.63 inches. KBRO also recorded 18 mph wind gusts. But to the north of the center, where many of the media were located, not a drop of rain fell. Corpus Christi saw zero inches of rain, but did record gale-force wind gusts (39 mph). Harlingen, near Baffin Bay, and close to where the center made landfall, saw 0.20 inches of rain and 18 mph wind gusts. This storm did very, very little to relieve any drought conditions in Southern Texas. And so it continues.

What's next: Invest 91L continues to impress

Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours. 91L will probably develop into a tropical cyclone before it reaches the Lesser Antilles, so residents of these islands should remain watchful and prepared. Satellite loops show not only organized thunderstorm activity, but also the makings of a surface circulation. Something this wave has working against it right now is dry air—there's a large mass of Saharan air on the north and east sides of the system, which could at least prevent significant intensification. Also, University of Wisconsin CIMSS analysis shows some strong wind shear (30-40 knots) to the north of the wave. However, I don't expect this to prevent development of the wave. Wind shear out ahead of the system is relatively low (5-15 knots). Moisture is plenty high within the system, and sea surface temperatures are warm and toasty (28°C+) and will only get warmer as 91L moves west into the Caribbean.


Figure 2. Infrared satellite of invest 91L taken at 1:15pm EDT today.

Forecast for 91L
Most of the reliable forecast models (GFS, CMC, FIM, and the ECMWF) have come to agree that 91L will develop, however, they differ on how long-lived that will be. Some of the models are suggesting it will be a short-lived tropical cyclone, not making it out of the Caribbean alive, and some suggest that it will hold together and intensify as it moves north of the Caribbean islands. The forecast track for the system will most likely be to the northwest through the Caribbean, at which point it will take a northeast turn near the Bahamas, never reaching the U.S. coast. HWRF agrees with this track (and also brings the system to category 2 strength by August 3rd). However, there is still some uncertainty that the system could track west, south of the Caribbean islands, and potentially into the Gulf of Mexico. However, none of the models that suggest this solution actually show that the wave will be a tropical cyclone at that point.

The National Hurricane Center is giving this wave an 80% chance of developing into at least Tropical Depression Five over the next 48 hours. Chances are we will see Emily out of this system. A Hurricane Hunter mission is scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm EDT, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see them call this system this evening, given the threat to the Lesser Antilles.

Watching a northwest Caribbean disturbance

A broad area of disturbed weather is producing some heavy thunderstorms in the northwest Caribbean, southeast of the Yucatan Peninsula. Little to no low-level circulation exists with this feature, and none of the models are picking up on it. The Hurricane Center has "blobbed" this item (as I like to say) with a "near 0%" chance of developing over the next 48 hours. This disturbance could cause major flooding in the region given the amount of thunderstorm activity, and predictability for systems like this (potential Bay of Cempeche tropical cyclones) is very low. Models have a short lead time on development, and they spin up very fast once they enter the Bay of Campeche given the favorable topography of the land surrounding it. The difference between this system, though, and one like Arlene, is that there is very, very little low level circulation already present. Pre-Arlene was a bit more organized before it crossed the Yucatan, and so it's hard to imagine that this disturbance will be able to hold together, should it get that far.

If 91L develops, I'll be back tomorrow with a post.

Angela
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6701. lordhuracan01 3:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting ackee:
WHAT is DELAYING 91L devlopment ?

A ELONGATED LOW
B SHEAR
C TWO VORTEX
D just under performing


D
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6702. IKE 3:00 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    

Quoting weatherguy03:


Ya know I thought the 100% was warranted yesterday morning. I thought it was almost there, I really did. Then I analyze and look at this system this morning and really believe the 90% chance is overdone. But what do I know..LOL
It may have been warranted. It may take a while now.
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6705. mattw479 3:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting StormHype:
Just for those who don't already know this... the longer 91L takes to get its act together, the farther west the system will track, and the models are picking up on this now. Even the CMC, which was showing a hurricane moving to the NE of the Bahamas on Friday, is showing a track slightly left of what 2004's Charley did. Also, the GFDL is not worth paying much attention to until this system is a TD or better.



All the modeals together "paint the picture"....each model has its own value in some part of the forecast...Some models are more reliable than others....We will no more IF the system continues to develop and the models get a better grasp
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6706. TropicalAnalystwx13 3:02 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Good morning everyone.

91L still not a tropical depression or storm? Wow.
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6707. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 3:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting weatherguy03:


Ya know I thought the 100% was warranted yesterday morning. I thought it was almost there, I really did. Then I analyze and look at this system this morning and really believe the 90% chance is overdone. But what do I know..LOL
it was there but everything fell apart and shear dry air did not help then the compeating cirulations made it even more complex and once the wave out run the low all hope was lost till now lets see what other tricks are to come
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6708. NICycloneChaser 3:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Good morning everyone.

91L still not a tropical depression or storm? Wow.


It's developed two vorticies now, so HH found no westerlies. They did find TS force winds though, so when it gets rid of one vorticy we should have Emily. Hard to say how long that will take though.
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6709. scott39 3:03 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Models past 3 days are for entertainment only.
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6711. splash3392 3:04 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
mother nature certainly is providing us with new lessons this year!
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6712. vortextrance 3:04 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
The shear has been a big problem for 91L since yesterday. I also think the models are being given too much credibility right now. They are not reliable with tropical cyclone development.
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6713. Patrap 3:04 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
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6715. 1344 3:05 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Good morning everyone.

91L still not a tropical depression or storm? Wow.


No closed LLC.
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6716. NICycloneChaser 3:05 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TxHurricanedude11:
Its it me or is that really jason using jessicas account...looking suspecious hmmm.


Funny enough, that's what first sprung to my mind.
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6718. bocahurricane 3:05 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


Says we have take off at 1600Z, that's just over an hour. What's the point? Last recon just left and there's no well defined circulation, I doubt it's going to have it's act together in a few hours.


they are probably going back out again due to its close proximity to the islands. Should it get its act together they will have little time to prepare and some of their structures are not built like those here in the CONUS
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6719. MeterologyStudent56 3:05 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
This Won't get into the Gulf.. There is a High Pressure Protecting the Gulf.. Watch weatherguy3
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6720. nrtiwlnvragn 3:05 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Looking back at dropsonde data (Google Earth) from the GIV jet yesterday did show some dryier air to the north.
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6722. yesterway 3:06 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
More concerned here in Florida about intensity than path....tropical rain event very welcome less wind destruction....
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6723. SLU 3:07 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
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6724. MississippiWx 3:07 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
The strongest low level vortex that I can see is running out ahead of the convection. This is still poorly organized and it will stay disorganized until one area of circulation can win out.

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6725. NICycloneChaser 3:07 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting P451:


Going on 3 days now with this system not being able to sort out it's multiple vorticies issue.

Looks like we were all fooled with that really impressive mid-level rotation over the easterly circulation the past two days.

The surface feature of this system has always been a complete mess and it just has had no luck ditching the huge broad circulation with multiple smaller vortices bouncing around within it.

HH's yesterday afternoon found THREE competing low level vorticies. There may have been more as we've all seen other spins in other places throughout this event.

Seeing that it has still failed to remedy this I don't see any reason to keep clinging to the seat watching it - expecting any hour now to decide on a dominant center, close it off from the broad circulation, and get going.

Just as we keep thinking it's about to do it it doesn't.

The other thing is this just wasn't your usual broad circulation with competing vorticies - it was a GIGANTIC circulation probably close to 1,000 miles in circumference at times.

Then I guess throw in the obvious dry air, some of which at other levels our typical WV imagery cannot see, the localized shear associated with multiple competing vorticies and their accompanied convection ---- and it makes sense we are where we are.

We were all mostly fooled into expecting a quick resolution of these issues because that mid-level turning just looked soooo good along with the upper level anti-cyclone.

It happens....


Lol, this sums it up pretty well. At least we've gone from three to two vorticies, I guess it's getting there.
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6726. AussieStorm 3:07 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Anyone seen this? I hope it doesn't come true.

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6727. Xandtar 3:08 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting Grothar:


Why?


Because a lot of people including me, live on Dominica and surrounding islands and we don't want anyone to die because they believe the blue blue skies we're seeing right now mean they can go enjoy the surf, etc.

Someone needed to explain this to you?
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6728. NICycloneChaser 3:09 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:
The strongest low level vortex that I can see is running out ahead of the convection. This is still poorly organized and it will stay disorganized until one area of circulation can win out.



I would actually be more inclined to say that the better circulation is the one underneath the convection, the last few frames of imagery seem to show the easterly one weakening a little.
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6729. 1344 3:09 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Anyone seen this? I hope it doesn't come true.



I don't think it will happen IMO.
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6730. Dakster 3:10 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
KanKunKid - We just need to put in the water supply...

Time to make my Home Depot run before the masses...
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6731. lordhuracan01 3:10 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TxHurricanedude11:

??its c not d...read previous and you'll find the answer.


whatever.... D
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6732. Patrap 3:10 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Reggie Bush is a Dolphin now,,so that will have be factored into the Miami solution I guess
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6733. MeterologyStudent56 3:11 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Anyone seen this? I hope it doesn't come true.



Aussie... Thats Highly Unlikely... I Live in South Florida and this would be Horrible......

All i want here is a drought buster.... A 40-50 mph Tropical Storm...

We are still in exceptional drought here.

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6734. Relix 3:12 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Anyone things a relocation back to the convection is possible?
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6735. MississippiWx 3:12 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting NICycloneChaser:


I would actually be more inclined to say that the better circulation is the one underneath the convection, the last few frames of imagery seem to show the easterly one weakening a little.


I'm still not so sure that the Eastern-most circulation is not mostly mid-level.

The western-most circulation that is shooting out away from any convection will eventually die without any convection.
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6736. weaverwxman 3:12 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
any model run 6 days out is pure speculation. give your dog or cat a crayon and a tracking map and let them do the plotting IMO about as accurate as 6 day runs..
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6737. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod) 3:12 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting AussieStorm:
Anyone seen this? I hope it doesn't come true.

here is an animated image

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6738. PcolaDan 3:13 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
@JimCantore
Jim Cantore
A few reports of scattered power outages, HVY rain, & wind across the some of the islands w/ squally wx preceding 91L have come in #Tropics
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6739. java162 3:13 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting Xandtar:


Because a lot of people including me, live on Dominica and surrounding islands and we don't want anyone to die because they believe the blue blue skies we're seeing right now mean they can go enjoy the surf, etc.

Someone needed to explain this to you?


im in dominica right now! in laplaine. just had a very hheavy shower and some gusty winds. where exactly are you?
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6740. islander101010 3:13 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
just watch when 91 enters the dead zone it will develop a circulation
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6741. MeterologyStudent56 3:13 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting CorneliaMarie:
Invest 91L, which is located near 12°N 48°W in the central Atlantic, continues to impress today, and has shown signs of more organization over the past 24 hours.

When is it scheduled to hit New Orleans?


No Comment.

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6742. MississippiWx 3:14 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting MeterologyStudent56:


Aussie... Thats Highly Unlikely... I Live in South Florida and this would be Horrible......

All i want here is a drought buster.... A 40-50 mph Tropical Storm...

We are still in exceptional drought here.



It's hard to say these solutions are highly unlikely when they are becoming the consistent solution. The reason that is becoming a popular solution in the models is the fact that 91L can't make up its mind and develop.
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6743. stillwaiting 3:14 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
llc trying to form around 15n,56w apparent on rammb 1k vis loop for 91l
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6744. NICycloneChaser 3:14 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I'm still not so sure that the Eastern-most circulation is not mostly mid-level.

The western-most circulation that is shooting out away from any convection will eventually die without any convection.


You may be right, certainly the mid-level vorticity is slightly east of the low-level vorticity. One thing's for sure, it needs to pick one soon.
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6745. klew136 3:14 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
Watching 91L carefully and patiently

that was cute
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6746. Joshfsu123 3:14 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:


I'm still not so sure that the Eastern-most circulation is not mostly mid-level.

The western-most circulation that is shooting out away from any convection will eventually die without any convection.


That happens - developing storms often times will shoot out their LLC when they are trying to develop a new one - especially when they are disorganized and still developing.

I would expect the new LLC to develop where the strong MLC is currently at. But it won't get a surface circulation for a while, imo.
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6747. angiest 3:15 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Current steering layer.


In the short-term, nothing to impart much of a northerly component. 91L has failed to gain enough lattitude and for the time-being looks stuck on this heading.
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6748. prcane4you 3:16 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting TxHurricanedude11:
The next person who thinks im wishcasting will be ignored no questions asked,had enough of this games.
I'm crying.
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6749. Dakster 3:17 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting MeterologyStudent56:


Aussie... Thats Highly Unlikely... I Live in South Florida and this would be Horrible......

All i want here is a drought buster.... A 40-50 mph Tropical Storm...

We are still in exceptional drought here.




Not to nitpick, but....

I do not know how anyone can say something that far out is highly likely or unlikely. If the models are saying it is possible, it is possible even if it isn't the most probable course. The short, short range models were wrong at developing 91L - so the way I look at it, anything is possible at the moment.

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6750. stillwaiting 3:17 PM GMT on August 01, 2011    
Quoting yesterway:
More concerned here in Florida about intensity than path....tropical rain event very welcome less wind destruction....
,your avy has to be the most perfect looking anvil ive ever seen,amazing!!
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