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Dangerous Tropical Storm Irene headed for the Dominican Republic
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:38 PM GMT on August 21, 2011 +48
Tropical Storm Irene roared into life last night, transitioning from a tropical wave to a 50 mph tropical storm in just a few short hours. Irene is getting organized quickly, and has the potential to become a hurricane by Monday morning. All interests in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, Cuba, the Bahamas, and South Florida should prepare for the arrival of this dangerous storm. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft in the storm found the strongest winds near 18°N latitude to the north of Irene's center at 8am this morning. After passing through the center, the plane returned to the area of strongest winds two hours later, and found that flight level winds at 5,000 feet had increased by about 5 - 8 mph. However, the pressure in the latest center fix taken at 10am EDT remained the same as two hours previously, 1007 mb, and the plane noted that Irene's center was not circular, signs that the storm still has some work to do before serious intensification can begin. Visible satellite loops and radar out of Martinique show the storm has rapidly organized this morning, with well-developed spiral bands forming and a large area of intense thunderstorms to the north of the center. Irene has shrugged off the dry air that was bothering it yesterday, and wind shear has fallen to the low range, 5 - 10 knots, as analyzed by the University of Wisconsin CIMSS group. Torrential rains and strong gusty winds are affecting the northern Lesser Antilles this morning. A wind gust of 41 mph was recorded at St. Eustatius at 8am local time.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of Irene.

Track forecast for Irene
The computer models are in agreement that Irene will pass just south of Puerto Rico tonight, then hit the south coast of Hispaniola in the Dominican Republic or Haiti on Monday afternoon. Irene should then emerge into the channel between Haiti and Cuba on Tuesday afternoon, when the storm will have 12 or so hours over water before having to contend with Cuba. A trough of low pressure is expected to move across the Eastern U.S. on Wednesday and Thursday, turning Irene to the northwest and north by Thursday. The timing and strength of this trough varies considerably from model to model, and will be critical in determining where and when Irene will turn to the north. Irene's strength will also matter--a stronger Irene is more likely to turn northward earlier. The most likely path for Irene is a track just east of the Florida Peninsula and into Georgia, South Carolina, or North Carolina by next weekend, but a landfall near Miami then directly up the Florida Peninsula is also a reasonable solution--like Tropical Storm Fay of 2008 did. Fay formed just off the coast of Puerto Rico, and was never quite able to get organized enough to become a hurricane, due to passage over Hispaniola and Cuba. Fay topped out as a strong tropical storm with 70 mph winds, and did over $500 million in damage in the U.S., mostly due to flooding rains in Florida that accumulated to over 25 inches in a few areas. Fay also dumped heavy rains on Hispaniola, triggering flooding that claimed eight lives.


Figure 2. Track of Tropical Storm Fay of 2008.

Intensity forecast for Irene
Irene is embedded in a large envelope of moisture now, and wind shear will remain low, 5 - 10 knots, for the next five days. With water temperatures very warm, 28 - 30°C, these conditions should allow for intensification except when land is interfering. Irene's current appearance on satellite loops gives me the impression of a storm that is not fooling around, and I expect Irene will be a hurricane before hitting Hispaniola on Monday. Passage over Hispaniola will not destroy Irene, since it is a fairly large storm. Once the storm finishes with Hispaniola, it will have to deal with Cuba, which will keep Irene from intensifying significantly. Once Irene pops off the coast of Cuba Wednesday or Thursday into the Florida Straits, Irene will likely be a tropical storm. If the storm then has at least a day over water before hitting land, it will likely become a hurricane again, and could become a major hurricane if it ends up missing South Florida and moving over the warm waters on either side of the Florida Peninsula.

Harvey hits Belize
Tropical Storm Harvey made landfall at 2pm EDT on Saturday near Dangriga Town, Belize, as a tropical storm with 60 mph winds. Harvey continues to dump very heavy rains on southern Mexico, but dissipation is expected tonight as the storm pushes inland. Harvey was a small storm, and the strongest winds were confined to a short stretch of coast near where the center came ashore. Winds at Belize City, Belize on Saturday topped out at 15 mph.


Figure 3. Radar image of Harvey taken at 11:30am EDT on Saturday, August 20, 2011, a few hours before landfall in Belize. A small closed eye is visible just south of the offshore islands of Belize. Image credit: Belize National Meteorological Service.

Invest 98L northwest of the Cape Verde Islands
A tropical wave few hundred miles northwest of the Cape Verde Islands off the coast of Africa, Invest 98L, has become disorganized and lost most of its heavy thunderstorms. The disturbance is moving over colder waters and encountering drier air, and NHC is giving 98L only a 10% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Tuesday. The latest set of model runs keep 98L well out to sea away from any land areas over the next five days.

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6651. 7544 7:42 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
she in the open water now or still on land
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6652. thedawnawakening3 7:43 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Irene's COC is kind of becoming somewhat disorganized, however radar still shows that spiral banding features are intensifying and becoming more and more organized with time. This suggests that it won't take much time over water for her COC to redevelop and intensify. This is worrisome news, plus I don't think she will come close to the coastline of Hispaniola.
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6653. Vincent4989 7:43 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Irene has an eye- needed to be upgraded into cat 1
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6654. Relix 7:43 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Cupey and Carolina receiving now the seemingly stronger East side of Irene.
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6655. thedawnawakening3 7:43 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
She is still on land for a little bit longer.
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6656. TampaBayWX 7:44 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:
Irene has an eye- needed to be upgraded into cat 1


Where do you see an eye?
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6657. HurricaneHunterJoe 7:45 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting WCSCTVCharleston:



Hugo came in at a different angle once it hit PR it moved nnw then nw right into Charleston. Storms that come from the south due north always hook and miss us plus on the west side of the circulation we get nothing from it cept maybe floyd and that is cuz the wind field was so big. Bertha passed within 100 miles of Charleston and it was sunny at times that day.
i feel your pain
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6658. 7544 7:45 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting Vincent4989:
Irene has an eye- needed to be upgraded into cat 1


yeap been saying that for the last hour but peeps say its dryair idk
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6659. atmosweather 7:45 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting Relix:
Caguas was also feeling that calm until a few minutes ago.


Santurice gives the true location, watch the windshift from NNE to SE, meaning the storm is coming up from the SE and moving to its SW and W. It cannot possibly be over water. Also it is pretty calm and the pressure is 992 mb.
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6660. QPhysFTW 7:46 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting TropicalWeatherGrl88:


I think you are sort of contraditing yourself in a way LOL... What he is saying is, it is disastrous for Puerto Rico


Actually, I wasn't saying that either, but thanks for sticking up for me :P I kind of explain myself in post 6623, but I should clarify further: I was not even talking about Irene. In context, I mentioned how Irene might be an example, but I was really just trying to understand how a circulation skirting a coastline might be affected by nearby mountainous terrain. Just a simple, hypothetical scenario that happened to be not so hypothetical, since it's pretty much happening right now!
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6661. yesterway 7:46 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting TampaBayWX:


Where do you see an eye?


you are being baited...don't take it
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6662. HurricaneHunterJoe 7:46 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:
Irene's COC is kind of becoming somewhat disorganized, however radar still shows that spiral banding features are intensifying and becoming more and more organized with time. This suggests that it won't take much time over water for her COC to redevelop and intensify. This is worrisome news, plus I don't think she will come close to the coastline of Hispaniola.
hope she hits the D.R. and goes thru the mountains
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6663. atmosweather 7:46 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting Bobbyweather:

Yeah, I know, but if this trend continues, rapid intensification is possible. According to SHIPS,
Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 42% is 3.3 times the sample mean(12.8%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 27% is 3.2 times the sample mean( 8.4%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 16% is 3.2 times the sample mean( 5.0%)
Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.8 times the sample mean( 3.4%)



Its a very well organized storm with a tight low level core and an excellent environment to work with. If she stays away from major land interaction I can certainly see a period of rapid intensification at some point.
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6664. LargoFl 7:46 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:
Irene's COC is kind of becoming somewhat disorganized, however radar still shows that spiral banding features are intensifying and becoming more and more organized with time. This suggests that it won't take much time over water for her COC to redevelop and intensify. This is worrisome news, plus I don't think she will come close to the coastline of Hispaniola.
Not a good sign, once back over warm water she can get her act together again and grow stronger
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6665. 7544 7:46 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting TampaBayWX:


Where do you see an eye?


just north of pr in the water look

Link
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6666. thedawnawakening3 7:47 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Radar suggests that she is over San Juan, PR and ready to get into the Atlantic Ocean. Nice curved band structure on her eastern side.
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6667. Vincent4989 7:47 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting 7544:


yeap been saying that for the last hour but peeps say its dryair idk

dont believe in that silly downcasters
Quoting TampaBayWX:


Where do you see an eye?

Just north of PR.






Sheesh, blog still faster than usual.
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6668. yonzabam 7:47 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:
Making any comparisons to any storms is foolish. She could be a lot more intense than Hugo, or she could be a weaker storm. Right now it depends upon what happens in the next 24 hours that could tell us whether or not she wants to be the monster we all fear, or just another hurricane that hits land.


How could Irene be a lot more intense than Hugo? Hugo was a cat 4 from the Antilles to landfall in S. Carolina, briefly reaching cat 5 status out at sea.
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6669. TampaBayWX 7:49 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting 7544:


just north of pr in the water look

Link


I see a tiny gret dot in the middle of the clouds... not enough for me to say thats an eye. Sorry bro....
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6670. HurricaneHunterJoe 7:49 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:
Radar suggests that she is over San Juan, PR and ready to get into the Atlantic Ocean. Nice curved band structure on her eastern side.


next stop,hopefully is dominican republic
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6671. TropicalWeatherGrl88 7:49 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting QPhysFTW:


Actually, I wasn't saying that either, but thanks for sticking up for me :P I kind of explain myself in post 6623 how, as a physicist, but I should clarify further: I was not even talking about Irene. In context, I mentioned how Irene might be an example, but I was really just trying to understand how a circulation skirting a coastline might be affected by nearby mountainous terrain. Just a simple, hypothetical scenario that happened to be not so hypothetical, since it's pretty much happening right now!


I would say skirting would not have much of an effect. It may cause it to stop strenghtening, but I dont see how it would really hurt it too bad.
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6672. thedawnawakening3 7:50 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Her COC is just about to emerge into the Atlantic near San Juan, PR. Her southern spiral bands are intensifying while over the mountainous region of PR, this suggests that she has plenty of moisture and oceanic heat around to compensate for being over land for a few hours. This is extremely worrisome. Dry air will be a problem on her southern side as well as restricted outflow on this side for another 12 hours or so.
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6673. 1million 7:50 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting 7544:


just north of pr in the water look

Link


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6674. Relix 7:50 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting atmosweather:


Santurice gives the true location, watch the windshift from NNE to SE, meaning the storm is coming up from the SE and moving to its SW and W. It cannot possibly be over water. Also it is pretty calm and the pressure is 992 mb.


Perfect! Thank you This is why I am reporting. I am gonna take a bet and say its gonna escape through the Dorado/Manati/Vega Baja area in north PR. Right now still calm but widespread reports of "el virazon" (east side) are appearing all over social networks. Seems its very bad.
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6675. FrankZapper 7:51 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting QPhysFTW:


First of all, if the circulation is strong enough, it WOULD be completely disastrous if it were completely over populated land. But that aside, what I meant was disastrous in the context of maintaining a circulation, as I was in physics discussion mode. A poor choice of words, I'll admit.

And thanks to all (particulary dawnawakening) that have been so helpful in providing detailed information regarding land interaction, particularly in the context of what Irene is doing this very moment. Keep it up!
Hey Little Einstein, come down out of those clouds.
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6676. atmosweather 7:51 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Here you go:

AT 400 AM AST...0800 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM
IRENE WAS ESTIMATED BY FAA DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR TO BE
NEAR LATITUDE 18.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 66.3 WEST...OR ABOUT
20 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO AND ABOUT
60 MILES EAST OF AGUADILLA PUERTO RICO.
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6677. thedawnawakening3 7:52 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Dry air appears to be impacting mainly the western side of her COC, which tells me this is taking the biggest beating from dry air and land interaction.
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6678. HurricaneHunterJoe 7:52 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting 7544:


just north of pr in the water look

Link
looks like dry air coming a channel from the north,see the little dark line?
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6679. TropicalGenesis 7:53 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Wow - Irene is still located over the Island traveling along route 22 west.
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6680. cycleranger 7:53 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    


6z Surface Winds Analysis.

Holding her own.
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6681. atmosweather 7:54 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting Relix:


Perfect! Thank you This is why I am reporting. I am gonna take a bet and say its gonna escape through the Dorado/Manati/Vega Baja area in north PR. Right now still calm but widespread reports of "el virazon" (east side) are appearing all over social networks. Seems its very bad.


Yes I'd agree with that exit point, she is about 10 miles SE of there right now.

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6682. WCSCTVCharleston 7:54 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
The 6z early cycle models are more clustered taking a general track just east of FL up into SC
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6683. thedawnawakening3 7:54 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting atmosweather:
Here you go:

AT 400 AM AST...0800 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM
IRENE WAS ESTIMATED BY FAA DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR TO BE
NEAR LATITUDE 18.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 66.3 WEST...OR ABOUT
20 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO AND ABOUT
60 MILES EAST OF AGUADILLA PUERTO RICO.


This means that her coc is tightening again and the convection in the northern semi circle is really intense.
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6684. heretolearninPR 7:56 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting yesterway:


How is it that you are able to be online?


laptop computer and broadband internet
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6685. yonzabam 7:56 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting atmosweather:
Here you go:

AT 400 AM AST...0800 UTC...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL STORM
IRENE WAS ESTIMATED BY FAA DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR TO BE
NEAR LATITUDE 18.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 66.3 WEST...OR ABOUT
20 MILES WEST-SOUTHWEST OF SAN JUAN PUERTO RICO AND ABOUT
60 MILES EAST OF AGUADILLA PUERTO RICO.


Since it was at 18.3N 66.1W an hour ago, it has been moving due west for the past hour with no northerly component.
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6686. Relix 7:57 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Hatillo is now reporting calm
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6687. HurricaneHunterJoe 7:57 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:
Dry air appears to be impacting mainly the western side of her COC, which tells me this is taking the biggest beating from dry air and land interaction.
yup
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6688. TampaBayWX 7:58 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
sheesh this forum is flying fast, have to refresh every 10 seconds haha and its 4 am.
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6689. WCSCTVCharleston 7:59 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting yonzabam:


How could Irene be a lot more intense than Hugo? Hugo was a cat 4 from the Antilles to landfall in S. Carolina, briefly reaching cat 5 status out at sea.



If it made landfall at the exact same strength as hugo did but 40 miles south of Charleston then it would be much worse.
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6690. Relix 7:59 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Arecibo in calm as well
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6691. OracleDeAtlantis 7:59 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:


This means that her coc is tightening again and the convection in the northern semi circle is really intense.
Stop talking dirty ...
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6692. crAAzyCane 8:00 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting thedawnawakening3:


This means that her coc is tightening again and the convection in the northern semi circle is really intense.


Which also means she'll have plenty of moisture to try and wrap around her center when you moves out over the water.
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6693. TropicalWeatherGrl88 8:00 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops/wxloop .cgi?wv_east_enhanced+12

In the end of this loop she looks more like a hurricane then ever.
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6694. TomTaylor 8:00 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
After spending a little more than 2 hours over Puerto Rico, Irene is already back over the warm tropical Atlantic




The core and surface/mid level circulations have been affected by the land interaction, however, a strong surface circulation under the mid level circulation, still remains present according to radar observations. It will take a bit for Irene to reorganize herself over the next day after crossing PR, however, once again Irene remains to the north/right of her projected path. Here's an image of the 6z consensus models with Irene's current position shown by the thumbtack.






Should the forecasted shape of Irene's track not change (which it really hasn't over the past few days - it's only shifted east), then Irene should actually miss Hispaniola all together. It still may briefly skirt the northern part of the island tomorrow, however, that part of the island is not very mountainous and I don't expect Irene to be significantly disrupted by this. Once again, the upper level environment and ocean environment are prime for intensification, so if you live on the Bahamas, SE US, or mid-Atlantic states, start preparing now. For now, Hispaniola and PR will have to watch for torrential rains.
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6695. TampaBayWX 8:01 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting OracleDeAtlantis:
Stop talking dirty ...


haha
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6696. cycleranger 8:01 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
2011AUG22 061500 3.8 989.8/ +0.0 / 61.0 3.8 4.0 5.8 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -19.76 -64.26 EYE 24 IR 18.51 66.07 COMBO
2011AUG22 064500 3.8 989.9/ +0.1 / 61.0 3.8 4.1 5.7 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -12.06 -62.69 EYE 26 IR 18.55 66.30 COMBO
2011AUG22 071500 3.9 988.7/ +0.3 / 63.0 3.9 4.1 5.4 0.5T/hour OFF OFF -11.76 -60.28 EYE 29 IR 18.59 66.53 COMBO

Scene Type goes from UNIFRM to EYE...not sure what this means though. lol.
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6697. HurricaneHunterJoe 8:02 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting cycleranger:


6z Surface Winds Analysis.

Holding her own.
looks like she will go east coast to west coast over land,
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6698. Relix 8:02 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Bayamon reporting the east side. Its coming to get me soon!
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6699. TropicalWeatherGrl88 8:02 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
But maybe that is just an illusion.
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6700. atmosweather 8:03 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
993 mb reported at Luis Munoz Marin Int'l Airport this hour...she definitely has not lost much strength if at all.

Watch the buoy just N of San Juan too, excellent observation point just E of the center. 991 mb pressure at the most recent report.
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6701. Relix 8:03 AM GMT on August 22, 2011    
Quoting TomTaylor:
After spending a little more than 2 hours over Puerto Rico, Irene is already back over the warm tropical Atlantic


Nope. NHC reporting its moving west over the north side of PR. Maybe the north part of the COC is overwater (unlikely) but the system is still inland. Land reports from users also help sustain this.
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