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Tropical Storm Lee moving ashore; Katia continues northwest
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 1:53 PM GMT on September 03, 2011 +19
Tropical Storm Lee is marching steadily northwards towards landfall in Louisiana, and continues to slowly intensify. The storm's central pressure is now down to 993 mb, as measured by an Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft at 7am CDT. However, the center of Lee is now very close to the coast, and the storm doesn't have much time to intensify further before the center moves over land. The main impact from the storm on the coast thus far has been heavy rains. At New Orleans Lakefront Airport, 5.88" inches of rain had fallen from Lee as of 8 am CDT this morning. Top winds were 35 mph, gusting to 55 mph. Though Lee's top winds are rated as being 60 mph, it is difficult to find any land stations that have reported sustained winds of tropical storm force, 39 mph or greater. One station that has is at the tip of the Mississippi River Delta, where Southwest Pass measured sustained winds of 40 mph, gusting to 58 mph, at 7:03 am CDT. Upper-level winds out of the southwest are creating a moderate 10 - 20 knots of wind shear over Lee, keeping the storm's heavy thunderstorms pushed to the east side of the storm. Latest satelllite loops show Lee is becoming increasingly organized.


Figure 1. Radar-estimated rainfall from Lee from the New Orleans radar. Lee has dumped a large region of 4 - 8 inches so far (orange colors.)


Figure 2. Predicted rainfall for the 5-day period ending at 8 am EDT Thursday Sep 8, 2011. Lee is expected to bring a large swath of 4+ inches of rain all the way to New England. Image credit: NOAA/HPC.

Forecast for Lee
Lee's large size, ill-formed circulation center, and the presence of dry air on its west side due to an upper-level trough of low pressure make Lee look a lot like a subtropical storm on satellite imagery, with a broad center and the majority of the heavy thunderstorms in a broad band well removed from the center. Subtropical storms can undergo only relatively modest rates of intensification, and Lee is unlikely to become a hurricane. Also tending to slow intensification will be the fact that much of its circulation is over land. Damages from Lee are likely to be less than $100 - $200 million, with the greatest threats being fresh water flooding from heavy rains. Given that much of the region Lee will traverse over the next few days is under moderate to severe drought, the storm's rains may cause more economic benefit than damage. Since Texas is on the dry side of the storm, that state will see very little rainfall from Lee, except very close to the border with Louisiana. The rains from Lee appear to have mostly ended across extreme southern Louisiana, so the feared 10 - 15 inches of rain does not look like it will materialize there. One possible concern for Lee's rains will be the mid-Atlantic and Northeast, where recovery efforts from the devastating flooding due to Hurricane Irene may be hampered by the additional 2 - 4 inches that may fall from Lee's remnants by the middle of the week.Tornadoes from Lee are potential hazard today, as NOAA's Storm Prediction Center is highlighting the Northern Gulf Coast in their "slight risk" area for severe weather. A tornado watch is posted for the region, but no tornadoes have been reported as of 8 am CDT.

Lee is the 12th named storm this year, and came eight days before the half-way point of the Atlantic hurricane season. Climatologically, September 10 marks the half-way point. A typical hurricane season has just 10 - 11 named storms, so we've already had more than a whole season's worth of storms before reaching the half-way point. At this rate, 2011 will see 24 - 26 named storms, making it the 2nd busiest season on record, behind 2005. Lee's formation date of September 2 puts 2011 in 5th place for earliest date of arrival of the season's 12th storm. Only 2005, 1995, 1936, and 1933 had an earlier 12th storm.

Hurricane Katia
The latest set of model runs show very little change in the outlook for Hurricane Katia. Katia will continue its long trek across the Atlantic Ocean, and will not pose a danger to any land areas over the next five days. Katia is still struggling with dry air and wind shear that has risen to a high 20 - 25 knots. Latest satellite loops show a lopsided hurricane that is suffering from the impacts of dry air and wind shear on its southwest side.

The models now agree that the upper-level trough of low pressure bringing the wind shear to Katia will move away by Sunday, putting Katia in an environment with low to moderate wind shear. At the same time, ocean temperatures will warm to 29°C, a full 0.5°C over what Katia is experiencing today. These effects should allow Katia to intensify to a Category 2 hurricane by Monday. It is still unclear how much of a threat Katia may pose to the U.S., as this depends on the strength and timing of a trough of low pressure predicted to move off the U.S. East Coast 5 - 7 days from now. Our models do not have enough skill to predict how the steering currents will behave that far into the future. As I mentioned in yesterday's post, part of the problem is due to the inability of the computer models to agree on what will happen to Tropical Storm Talas in the Western Pacific. Talas hit Japan early on Saturday as a strong tropical storm, and is racing northwestwards towards Alaska. Talas is expected to transition into a powerful extratropical storm in the waters south of Alaska early next week. This extratropical storm will create a ripple effect downstream in the jet stream, all the way to North America, affecting the trough of low pressure off the U.S. East Coast expected to potentially recurve Katia when it approaches the U.S. The computer models are not very good at handling these sorts of interactions, leading to more than the usual amount of uncertainty in the long-range outlook for Katia. It will probably be another two days before the models will converge on a solution for the long-term fate of Katia. It's a good bet that locations on the U.S. coast south of North Carolina are in the clear, but residents from North Carolina to New England need to watch Katia. Dr. Bob Hart's Historical Tropical Cyclone Probability web page suggests shows that tropical storms in Katia's current position have a 15% chance of hitting North Carolina, a 22% chance of hitting Canada, a 12% chance of hitting New England, and a 58% chance of never hitting land. One almost certain impact of Katia on the U.S. will be large waves. Long period swells from Katia will begin affecting the Bahamas on Sunday night, then reach the Southeast U.S. by Monday morning. By Tuesday morning, the entire U.S. East Coast will see high surf from Katia, and these waves will increase in size and power as the storm grows closer. Given the slow movement of Katia as it approaches the coast, plus its expected Category 1 to 3 strength as it approaches, the storm will probably cause extensive beach erosion and dangerous rip tides for many days.


Figure 3. Satellite image of Tropical Storm Talas taken September 2, 2011, as the storm approached Japan. Image credit: NASA.

Jeff Masters
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We're in a Lee-lull at the moment but winds have been strong and gusty this morning with blowing rain at times. I had to don my gullashes and wander around the overhang!
So far 4
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1651. Termite3344 11:09 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


lol, wait until the lows drop into the 60s ;)


I have always LOVED the heat, and HATED the cold,, but after this summer,, I have NO problem with LongJohns
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1652. Tygor 11:10 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Dear Houston,

Enjoy the rain. Ship some to San Antonio please :)
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1653. nofailsafe 11:10 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    


Looks like some more storms popping up over the gulf. Pressure here has been dropping all afternoon so it doesn't surprise me too much.
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1654. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:11 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Here it comes!

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1655. HoustonTxGal 11:11 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Looking more and more like rain at my house!!!

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1656. pcola57 11:11 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


You figure BF is on the beach in flip flops???


Alway's...LOL...LOL!!!
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1657. washingaway 11:11 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
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1658. BaltimoreBrian 11:12 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Radar indicates the center of circulation with the low pressure I've been tracking has barely worked offshore south of White Lake. Just offshore the border between Cameron and Vermillion parishes.



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1659. TexasHurricane 11:12 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
Looking more and more like rain at my house!!!

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hoping you get some of that liquid gold... :)
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1660. Tazmanian 11:12 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
i no thats rain showing up on the TX rader but is any thing hiting the ground there ?
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1661. Patrap 11:12 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
TS Lee doing something it really has struggled with, building a left side, and has mixed that Air well nuff to fire some inflow Storms too.

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1662. EYEStoSEA 11:12 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
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1663. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:12 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Tygor:
Dear Houston,

Enjoy the rain. Ship some to San Antonio please :)


Maybe not rain, but you'll be getting some cooler temperatures. :)

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1664. IceCoast 11:13 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Anyone notice or mention the flash flood watch's for Sunday night through Tuesday evening for all of VT and Northeast NY? They don't need the rain there.

FLOOD WATCH
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
444 PM EDT SAT SEP 3 2011

NYZ026>031-034-035-087-VTZ001>012-016>019-041000-
/O.CON.KBTV.FF.A.0005.110905T0000Z-110906T1200Z/
/00000.0.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
NORTHERN ST. LAWRENCE-NORTHERN FRANKLIN-EASTERN CLINTON-
SOUTHEASTERN ST. LAWRENCE-SOUTHERN FRANKLIN-WESTERN CLINTON-
WESTERN ESSEX-EASTERN ESSEX-SOUTHWESTERN ST. LAWRENCE-GRAND ISLE-
WESTERN FRANKLIN-ORLEANS-ESSEX-WESTERN CHITTENDEN-LAMOILLE-
CALEDONIA-WASHINGTON-WESTERN ADDISON-ORANGE-WESTERN RUTLAND-
WINDSOR-EASTERN FRANKLIN-EASTERN CHITTENDEN-EASTERN ADDISON-
EASTERN RUTLAND-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MASSENA...MALONE...PLATTSBURGH...
STAR LAKE...SARANAC LAKE...TUPPER LAKE...DANNEMORA...
LAKE PLACID...PORT HENRY...TICONDEROGA...OGDENSBURG...POTSDAM...
GOUVERNEUR...ALBURGH...SOUTH HERO...ST. ALBANS...NEWPORT...
ISLAND POND...BURLINGTON...JOHNSON...STOWE...ST. JOHNSBURY...
MONTPELIER...MIDDLEBURY...VERGENNES...BRADFORD... RANDOLPH...
RUTLAND...SPRINGFIELD...WHITE RIVER JUNCTION...ENOSBURG FALLS...
RICHFORD...UNDERHILL...BRISTOL...RIPTON...EAST WALLINGFORD...
KILLINGTON
444 PM EDT SAT SEP 3 2011

...FLASH FLOOD WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM SUNDAY EVENING
THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING...

THE FLASH FLOOD WATCH CONTINUES FOR

* ALL OF NORTHERN NEW YORK AND VERMONT.

* FROM SUNDAY EVENING THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING.

* WIDESPREAD 1 TO 3 INCHES OF RAIN WITH LOCALIZED AMOUNTS TO 4
INCHES IS EXPECTED SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING ACROSS
THE ENTIRE NORTH COUNTRY. THE HEAVY RAINFALL WILL BE
CONCENTRATED OVER NORTHERN NEW YORK SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...AND
THEN MOVE INTO VERMONT BY MONDAY AFTERNOON AND MONDAY NIGHT.

* THIS IS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATION! AREAS HARD HIT BY
TROPICAL STORM IRENE WILL BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO MORE FLASH
FLOODING GIVEN THE ALREADY WET AND ERODED GROUND. IT WILL NOT
TAKE MUCH RAINFALL TO CAUSE FLASH FLOODING IN THIS SITUATION.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS MAY DEVELOP THAT LEAD
TO FLASH FLOODING. FLASH FLOODING IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

WITH SO MUCH ONGOING RESPONSE AND RESTORATION EFFORTS FROM
TROPICAL STORM IRENE...PERSONS NEED TO STAY TUNED TO LATER
FORECASTS FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND PLAN FOR WEATHER
THAT COULD SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT THE AREA.
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1665. washingaway 11:13 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
Looking more and more like rain at my house!!!

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When was the last time you had rain?
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1667. TexasHurricane 11:13 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i no thats rain showing up on the TX rader but is any thing hiting the ground there ?


We got some. Off and on right now. Hopefully more is coming. (I'm in SE TX)
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1668. JGreco 11:13 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


You figure BF is on the beach in flip flops???


Wow in these torrential winds and rains. I live less than a 1/2 mile from the beach in FWB, Fl and the lights started to flicker with this last squall. Kind crazy right now:o
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1669. Patrap 11:13 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
551
WFUS54 KMOB 032309
TORMOB
ALC097-MSC039-040000-
/O.NEW.KMOB.TO.W.0093.110903T2309Z-110904T0000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOBILE AL
609 PM CDT SAT SEP 3 2011

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOBILE HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHEASTERN GEORGE COUNTY IN SOUTHEAST MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTHERN MOBILE COUNTY IN SOUTHWEST ALABAMA...

* UNTIL 700 PM CDT

* AT 606 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 10 MILES EAST OF
BAYOU LA BATRE...OR 8 MILES NORTH OF EAST END OF DAUPHIN...MOVING
NORTHWEST AT 40 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
BELLE FONTAINE AROUND 620 PM CDT...
THEODORE AROUND 630 PM CDT...
TILLMANS CORNER AROUND 635 PM CDT...
FOREST HILL AROUND 645 PM CDT...
TANNER WILLIAMS AROUND 650 PM CDT...
SEMMES AROUND 700 PM CDT...

THIS INCLUDES INTERSTATE 10 IN ALABAMA BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 9 AND 23.

THIS INCLUDES INTERSTATE 65 BETWEEN MILE MARKERS 1 AND 7.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE DURING A TORNADO IS IN A BASEMENT. GET UNDER A
WORKBENCH OR OTHER PIECE OF STURDY FURNITURE. IF NO BASEMENT IS
AVAILABLE...SEEK SHELTER ON THE LOWEST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING IN AN
INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO
COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS.

IF IN MANUFACTURED HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM CDT SATURDAY EVENING
FOR SOUTHWEST ALABAMA AND NORTHWEST FLORIDA AND SOUTHEAST
MISSISSIPPI.



LAT...LON 3080 8847 3092 8822 3060 8805 3058 8806
3057 8808 3053 8807 3051 8809 3047 8809
3045 8810 3037 8810 3032 8813
TIME...MOT...LOC 2309Z 152DEG 33KT 3039 8806



CLICK HERE TO GO TO PREVIOUS BULLETINS.


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1670. BEENE 11:14 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:
Looking more and more like rain at my house!!!

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sitting on my back porch looking at the same thing - hope something comes of it- wind is starting to gust a little
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1671. Levi32 11:14 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Buoys near Louisiana indicate water temperatures have fallen 4-6 degrees Fahrenheit since Thursday due to evaporational cooling from Lee. This illustrates how even if Lee sits just offshore for the next day or two, significant strengthening is not expected. Lee could easily retain his current strength though, and will be battering Louisiana with tropical storm force winds and heavy rain for the next 48 hours.



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1672. JNCali 11:14 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    

Quoting Tazmanian:
my NWS is talking about LEE





Remainder of the Labor Day Weekend will bring warm temperatures across Northern California.....


What??? No Tule Fog??? (love driving in that stuff!)
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1673. pcola57 11:14 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:
TS lee doing something it really has struggled with, building a left side, and has mixed that Air well nuff to fire some inflow Storms too.



To be honest Pat...I was certain the dry Texas air would put this one to bed..but as we see thats not the case...
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1674. EYEStoSEA 11:15 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
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1675. Tazmanian 11:15 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting TexasHurricane:


We got some. Off and on right now. Hopefully more is coming. (I'm in SE TX)



ok so the air there most not be that dry then
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1676. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:15 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
For the cities in the path of the rain band headed towards Galveston and Houston...

- RAIN!!!

- Sustained winds between 20-25 mph

- Gusts up to 25-35 mph isolated
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1677. HoustonTxGal 11:15 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:
i no thats rain showing up on the TX rader but is any thing hiting the ground there ?


North Houston (Spring) Here,, not a drop yet but it sure looks promising!!
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1678. Patrap 11:15 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
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1679. Tazmanian 11:16 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting JNCali:

What??? No Tule Fog??? (love driving in that stuff!)



stil summer here lol
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1680. canehater1 11:17 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
From 4 PM CDT NWS N.O. discussion...guess it ain't over for us mariners anyway!

MARINE...
TROPICAL STORM LEE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPACT THE COASTAL WATERS
THROUGH MONDAY AS THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO MOVE VERY SLOWLY
NORTH AND MAKE LANDFALL ALONG THE CENTRAL LOUISIANA TONIGHT BEFORE
THEN SLOWLY MOVING OFF TO THE NORTHEAST. TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS AND SEAS UP TO 15 FEET WILL IMPACT THE COASTAL WATERS
THROUGH LABOR DAY. AS THE SYSTEM PULLS OFF TO THE NORTHEAST...A
COLD FRONT WILL PUSH ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS EARLY NEXT WEEK. WINDS
AND SEAS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH IN THE WAKE OF LEE AND THE COLD
FRONT. 11
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1681. blsealevel 11:17 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting EYEStoSEA:


great looks to be making its way back out sure hope those models you where showing dont pan out had over 7 inchs past 32 hrs though the breaks between the showers has allowed dranige to keep up so far
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1682. Tazmanian 11:17 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


North Houston (Spring) Here,, not a drop yet but it sure looks promising!!



ok
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1683. Termite3344 11:19 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Patrap:



My back is Fried, Now Back to Lee
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1684. BEENE 11:19 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting HoustonTxGal:


North Houston (Spring) Here,, not a drop yet but it sure looks promising!!


Conroe looking promising too- but you guys in spring will see it before us. Still nothing falling from the sky here. Windy,cool and a dark sky.
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1685. PcolaDan 11:19 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting Orcasystems:


You figure BF is on the beach in flip flops???

It's after 6. She should be off the beach and in dress flip flops now.
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1686. CaneHunter031472 11:19 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Lee seems to be making a SW wobble on the mimic Cimss. I just hope it is just a wobble and not what one of the models was predicting earlier. A SW movment and then back to a NE movement but stronger. Can anyone give an educated opinion on this?
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1687. HOOTat 11:19 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting pcola57:


To be honest Pat...I was certain the dry Texas air would put this one to bed..but as we see thats not the case...


Imagine what it could have been without the dry air from Texas.
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1688. HoustonTxGal 11:20 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting BEENE:


Conroe looking promising too- but you guys in spring will see it before us. Still nothing falling from the sky here. Windy,cool and a dark sky.


Well hello Conroe!! If and when the liquid golds starts falling, I will give it marching orders to come see you :o)
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1689. BaltimoreBrian 11:21 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Not much westward progress with the rain. I don't expect it to go even 10 miles further west.

Prepares for Houston bloggers to minus me into oblivion ;)

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1690. JNCali 11:21 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Okay.. so what would be the dif between a Wobble and a Jog??
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1691. TexasHurricane 11:22 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
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1692. TropicalAnalystwx13 11:22 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
Not much westward progress with the rain. I don't expect it to go even 10 miles further west.

Prepares for Houston bloggers to minus me into oblivion ;)



It's moving very slowly westward, watch that little isle off the Texas coast, to the NE of Galveston...Have Hope!
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1693. HoustonTxGal 11:24 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
Not much westward progress with the rain. I don't expect it to go even 10 miles further west.

Prepares for Houston bloggers to minus me into oblivion ;)



HEY!! Don't jinx us! (sad face)
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1694. rv1pop 11:24 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting LADobeLady:


I paid $2.50 a pound for 15/20's last week. 50# of them sitting in my freezer.

Hey! That is not fair! $14 a pound here. and long time frozen.
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1695. blsealevel 11:24 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Wobble is to the left Jog is to the right :)
just kidding both are the same
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1696. BaltimoreBrian 11:24 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
I hope you all get it, but oftentimes the western boundary of tropical systems has a SHARP precip cutoff.
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1697. PcolaDan 11:24 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
The Bayou La Batre Police Department are asking people to stay off the roads as Tropical Storm Lee pushes through the area. The following roads have been closed due to flooding:

Shell Belt Road
Alabama Avenue
Mars Avenue
Lottie Avenue
Coden Belt Road
Officials say winds have caused trees to sag into power lines and some transformers have been blown. Officials say Alabama Power has been alerted, but it could take several hours to restore power. Police ask people to stay off the roadways to make way for emergency vehicles.

The Baldwin County Emergency Management Agency says various roads in Fort Morgan are covered with sand and are having flooding issues. EMA Officials have listed the following roads as being closed:

U.S. 90 at County Road 87 at Elsanor
U.S. 31 at County Road 138 in Bay Minette
The Baldwin County EMA expects issues with flooding to continue to occur throughout the storm.
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1698. FortBendMan 11:25 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
I'm on the eastern side of Fort Bend County (county southwest of Houston so that 10 miles would work for me at least! All of Houston needs the rain but the eastern edge is where a lot of the reservoirs are (Trinity River) so that's good news even if we don't get it. Right now I'd say far west Houston is not looking great but the rest of the town is still hopeful.

Quoting BaltimoreBrian:
Not much westward progress with the rain. I don't expect it to go even 10 miles further west.

Prepares for Houston bloggers to minus me into oblivion ;)

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1699. PcolaDan 11:25 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Quoting JNCali:
Okay.. so what would be the dif between a Wobble and a Jog??

spelling
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1700. hotrods 11:25 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
Katia looks like she has taken a slight jog to the south and almost looks like a stall, shortwave loop-take a look and speed up the frames.
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1701. southernbell72 11:26 PM GMT on September 03, 2011    
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