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Invest 98L spinning up; outlook for remainder of hurricane season
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 2:09 PM GMT on September 19, 2011 +27
A tropical wave midway between Africa and the Lesser Antilles (Invest 98L) continues to look well-organized on satellite imagery, with a modest amount of heavy thunderstorm activity and spin. An ASCAT pass from 8:08 pm EDT last night showed 98L was close to closing off a well-defined surface circulation. Wind shear as diagnosed by the SHIPS model is light, less than 10 knots, and is predicted to stay light to moderate through Friday. Ocean temperatures are 28 - 28.5°C, well above the threshold typically needed for a tropical storm to spin up. Water vapor satellite images show 98L is embedded in a moist environment, but there is dry air to the system's northwest. However, given the light wind shear, this dry air may not pose a hindrance to development at this time. An analysis of upper level winds from the University of Wisconsin CIMMS group shows a pattern favorable for development, with an outflow channel open to both the north and south available to ventilate the storm and allow 98L to efficiently lift plenty of moisture to high levels.


Figure 1. Morning satellite image of 98L.

The models are not very aggressive about developing 98L into a tropical depression, but most of them do show some weak development. NHC gave the disturbance a 60% chance of developing into a tropical depression by Wednesday in their 8 am Tropical Weather Outlook. Given the recent increase in spin on visible satellite images and favorable environment for development, I'd bump these odds up to 70%. 98L is currently moving little, but is expected to begin a westward motion at 10 mph today. This motion would take 98L into the Lesser Antilles Islands by Friday or Saturday. The northern Lesser Antilles would be most likely to see the core of the storm, as has been the case for all of this year's disturbances. However, a more southerly path across Barbados, as predicted by the GFS model, cannot be ruled out. Once 98L does reach the Lesser Antilles, all of the models indicate the storm will see a sharp increase in vertical wind shear due to strong upper-level winds out of the west. This shear should make it difficult for 98L to intensify as it moves though the islands.

Atlantic hurricane outlook for the rest of September
Ocean temperatures are starting to decline in the North Atlantic, though remain much above average in the Main Development Region (MDR) for hurricanes, from the coast of Africa to the coast of Central America, between 10°N and 20°N latitude. The latest departure of sea surface temperature (SST) from average plot (Figure 2) shows a large area of ocean temperatures near 1°C above average. The water temperatures were 0.8°C above average in this region during August, which is the 4th highest such reading on record. These warm waters will allow for an above-average chance of African tropical waves developing through early October. By early October, the African Monsoon typically begins to wane, spawning fewer tropical waves that tend to be weaker, and we should stop seeing development of newly-emerged tropical waves off the coast of Africa.


Figure 2. Departure of sea surface temperature (SST) from average for September 19, 2011. Ocean temperatures were about 1°C above average over much of the Main Development Region (MDR) for hurricanes, from the coast of Africa to the coast of Central America, between 10°N and 20°N latitude. In the Pacific off the coast of South America, we can see the tell-tale signature of a La Niña event, with cooler than average waters along the Equator. Also note the cooler than average waters between Bermuda and Puerto Rico, due to the passage of Hurricane Maria and Hurricane Katia. Image credit: NOAA/NESDIS.

Wind shear has been near average over the tropical Atlantic this hurricane season, and is currently at its climatological low point, which occurs in mid-September. The latest 2-week run of the GFS model shows wind shear will remain at the sort of typical low levels we usually see this time of year. With ocean temperatures at near-record warm levels, this combination would tend to favor formation of at least two tropical storms between now and the beginning of October. One inhibiting factor, though, may be the continued presence of dry, stable air over the tropical Atlantic. Hurricanes like to have an unstable atmosphere, with moist, warm air near the surface, and cold, dryer air aloft. This situation helps the updrafts in the storm grow stronger. This year, we've had unusually stable air (Figure 3.) This has really put the brakes on intensification of most of the tropical storms that have formed. The current ratio of 14 named storms but only 3 hurricanes is unprecedented in the historical record, going back to 1851. Usually, just over half of all Atlantic tropical storms intensify into hurricanes. One other factor to consider, the 30-60 day pattern of increased thunderstorm activity known as the Madden-Jullian Oscillation (MJO), looks like it will have little influence over the coming week. The MJO has been weak all month, and is predicted to stay weak for the remainder of this week.


Figure 3. Vertical instability, as measured by the difference in temperature near the surface to the bottom of the stratosphere. The atmosphere in the Caribbean (left) and tropical Atlantic between Africa and the Lesser Antilles Islands (right) has been much more stable than average this year (average is the thick black line). Image credit: NOAA/CIRA.

Forecast of the rest of hurricane season
We are past the half-way point of the Atlantic hurricane season, which typically peaks on September 10. On average, about 60% of the activity has occurred by this point in the season. Since we've already had 14 named storms and 3 hurricanes, at the current rate, we would expect to see another 8 or 9 named storms, with 1 or 2 of them reaching hurricane strength. It's pretty tough to maintain the sort of activity levels we've seen so far this year, so I am forecasting we'll see 7 more named storms during the remainder of this season, taking us all the way to "W" in the alphabet. With the unusually stable air over the Atlantic showing no signs of abating, I predict that we'll see just 2 of these storms reach hurricane strength. As far as steering currents go, the latest 2-week forecast from the GFS model doesn't show any significant changes to the jet stream pattern we've seen all summer. There will continue to be a parade of troughs of low pressure moving off the U.S. East Coast that will tend to curve any storms northwards and then northeastwards out to sea, once they penetrate north of the Lesser Antilles Islands. This pattern favors strikes on North Carolina and New England, and discourages strikes on Texas. I doubt Texas will see a tropical storm this year given this steering pattern, and considering that Texas' tropical cyclone season tends to peak in late August and early September. It is quite unusual for Texas to have a tropical storm or hurricane this late in the season, so they will probably have to look elsewhere for drought-busting rains.

Jeff Masters
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252. GeoffreyWPB 9:46 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
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253. BaltimoreBrian 9:47 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
I finished up my first entry on a new blog series "Weather and Warfare" Come check it out! If you have time, (22 minutes) I linked to a good program about the battle from The History Channel on youtube at the end of the entry.

I'll do some more of these in the next 7 weeks or so. I will consider requests for entries about specific battles.
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254. washingtonian115 9:48 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Mmmmmm I noticed that during this time in September during nutreal years we usually see a lull.Remember what happened in 2008?.When it was active in the mid-late August period into early September then sorta quited down and then in October picked back up in intensity?
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255. carcar1967 9:48 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting cantgetitrightever:
most of the regulars on here hate hearing that storms will fail or fizzle i think they want all cat 5 and destruction thats sad but the facts are the facts this season is over............. now dont strat calling me a troll because your season was dull and is over


My question, what do most on here consider a troll?
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256. Xandra 9:48 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting youneedawaterbuffalo:
Jeff needs to close this childish playground of a blog down. Most of the credible bloggers have already left. The only good one left is Levi32, and perhaps a few more.

You're free to go elsewhere.

There is many weather blogs which is just the same everywhere. Nothing unique with them. We who wants something more for instance both science and weather, will not leave this blog and we are many from different countries who read Jeff Masters blog daily.

I read a very well written post by Nea a few days ago and if some of you missed it, here it is again (hope you don´t mind Nea)

Quote comment 1064/post 1931,

Quoting Neapolitan:
[EDIT: removed quote, as my intention was not to single out any person or persons.]

I've been hearing repeatedly of people leaving because of discussions about climate change, but I haven't seen any proof of that. There's one very vocal "skeptic" who has said he's withdrawing, along with a well-liked member going through a self-described period of bad health who has been posting less and less over the past several months anyway. But aside from those two--and a handful of who-wants-them-anyway trolls--I'm unsure who else has departed in a fit of pique.

As aqua said last night, it's doubtful anyone leaving is suddenly doing so because of blog entries with CC/GW content; after all, Dr. Masters has been posting about that subject for several years now, and the blog is doing just fine, thank you very much. (Not to mention the fact that for every person who may leave because of climate change discussions, another one will be drawn here simply because of such discussions.)

Annyway, it can't be said enough: it's Dr. Masters' blog. He has created WU, one of the most popular websites on the internet, and this blog is one of the most widely-read. If he wishes to occasionally use this self-created and high visible soapbox to talk about a subject--any subject--he's passionate about, I'm not sure what right any of us have to ask him to change. Demanding he does so is, to me, no different than walking into a McDonalds and declaring they must start serving only tofu burgers because you happen to be a vegetarian. That is: you're free to go elsewhere. Have some manners, for crying out loud.

And a final note: climate change is likely the most important matter facing humanity at this moment. Not talking about it isn't going to make it go away.

Thanks for listening...
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258. asgolfr999 9:49 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting carcar1967:


My question, what do most on here consider a troll?


Anyone who makes off the wall comments specifically to cause turmoil. People who are just wrong do not qualify ;-)
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260. TropicalAnalystwx13 9:49 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
Mmmmmm I noticed that during this time in September during nutreal years we usually see a lull.Remember what happened in 2008?.When it was active in the mid-late August period into early September then sorta quited down and then in October picked back up in intensity?


Neutral years and La Niña years both generally have active late seasons. Considering we've had both, I wouldn't doubt at least 7 more named storms before the season is up.

I'm going to go with 8 more, or to "Alpha".
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262. Landfall2004 9:52 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting asgolfr999:


Back to the kiddy pool for you...


LOL Yup! POOF for them. Life is good.

I may not know weather, but I know a troll ;<)
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263. asgolfr999 9:52 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting youneedawaterbuffalo:


Might I ask you why I'm considered what you call me? I just got done defending another blogger on here. I posted something about the tropics(my personal opinion), and I said a few things about the blog(basically what YOU said). I dont speak for cantgetit. But you can always use the ignore button JFYI!


Sure you can ask. My definition of a troll is above. If you make comments that fall within that definition, that is what I consider you.

But I really don't count, so don't get overly concerned.
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264. carcar1967 9:53 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting asgolfr999:


Anyone who makes off the wall comments specifically to cause turmoil. People who are just wrong do not qualify ;-)


Thanks.
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265. Tazmanian 9:54 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


"Also does anybody know what the last 98L was?."

Invest list rounds, please :)







round 1


90L bust

91L bust

92L bust

93L bust

94L bust

95L becomes ARLENE

96L bust

97L bust

98L be comes BRET

99L be comes CINDY





round 2



90L be comes DON

91L be comes EMILY

92L Absorbed by Gert

93L be comes FRANKLIN

94L be comes GERT

95L be comes HARVEY

96L bust

97L be comes IRENE

98L bust

99L bust


round 3


90L be comes TD 10

91L be comes JOSE

92L be comes KATIA

93L be comes LEE

94L bust

95L be comes MARIA

96L be comes Nate

97L bust

98L ????

99L bust
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266. asgolfr999 9:54 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting cantgetitrightever:
the word (troll) has always been associated with the gay communtity its their lingo they love to say


As Pat Might say....Dere's yer prime example
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268. washingtonian115 9:55 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Neutral years and La Niña years both generally have active late seasons. Considering we've had both, I wouldn't doubt at least 7 more named storms before the season is up.

I'm going to go with 8 more, or to "Alpha".
I'm still going with an active October.Especially in the Carriben where those water tempetures have been sitting hot with TCHP stored in them.The pattern should be changing in the next two weeks or so.
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271. CybrTeddy 9:57 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Just flag and ignore people.. flag and ignore..

Just look at their joining dates..

September 6, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 7

September 18, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 9

Its clear to me that this is the same disgruntled probably banned ex-WU blogger that we've been dealing with all season. How else would they know about the people on this blog, like Levi. That's who most of the trolls are people, someone who slipped up either this season and last season and feeling hurt still because of it.

Now, back to the tropics.

98L is getting its act together, gradually. I do think at this time this will become TS Ophelia. Will 98L become a hurricane? I say it has a 'maybe' 30% chance, my reasoning is that 98L is currently embedded within an area of good shear and high SSTs, which will cause it to strengthen, but the ULL in its way will act to shear 98L as it enters the Caribbean. Point being, it will probably look like Maria by the time it enters the islands.

Models aren't overly enthusiastic about 98L's chances, but do show modest strengthening over the next few days. It appears to me that the models might be under-initializing the current intensity (the ECMWF has been struggling with initialization intensity problems, for example several runs on Irene, Katia and Nate had it way stronger than it really was, where as Bret was too weak)
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272. Landfall2004 9:58 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:



round 1


90L bust

91L bust

92L bust

93L bust

94L bust

95L becomes ARLENE

96L bust

97L bust............


My, I am impressed! You guys are really INTO this. I mostly lurk for info, YOU obviously have a passion for weather. Keep it up, some of us are learning.
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274. Hurricanes101 10:01 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Interesting to note that 95L is the only invest # to be 3 for 3 in named storms
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275. swampliliy 10:01 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting Landfall2004:


My, I am impressed! You guys are really INTO this. I mostly lurk for info, YOU obviously have a passion for weather. Keep it up, some of us are learning.



Good catch! Taz has more weather knowledge than many on here- he just doesn't flaunt it. :))
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277. N3EG 10:02 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
I've noticed that troll activity increases with La Nina conditions. Sorry, but I don't have a chart. Maybe a troll can post one for me.
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278. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:03 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting CybrTeddy:
Just flag and ignore people.. flag and ignore..

Just look at their joining dates..

September 6, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 7

September 18, 2011 Posts: 0 Comments: 9

Its clear to me that this is the same disgruntled probably banned ex-WU blogger that we've been dealing with all season. How else would they know about the people on this blog, like Levi. That's who most of the trolls are people, someone who slipped up either this season and last season and feeling hurt still because of it.

Now, back to the tropics.

98L is getting its act together, gradually. I do think at this time this will become TS Ophelia. Will 98L become a hurricane? I say it has a 'maybe' 30% chance, my reasoning is that 98L is currently embedded within an area of good shear and high SSTs, which will cause it to strengthen, but the ULL in its way will act to shear 98L as it enters the Caribbean. Point being, it will probably look like Maria by the time it enters the islands.

Models aren't overly enthusiastic about 98L's chances, but do show modest strengthening over the next few days. It appears to me that the models might be under-initializing the current intensity (the ECMWF has been struggling with initialization intensity problems, for example several runs on Irene, Katia and Nate had it way stronger than it really was, where as Bret was too weak)


Shouldn't reach the islands until Friday or Saturday..Seems like plenty of time to strengthen, no?
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280. JNCali 10:04 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting youneedawaterbuffalo:


Dont let inconsiderate people push you away..

ugh
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281. Tazmanian 10:04 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
Interesting to note that 95L is the only invest # to be 3 for 3 in named storms




yup oh the nhc report is out on cindy and they upgradeed it too 70 mph
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282. CybrTeddy 10:05 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    

276. funny enough I have heard of the term ''lurking''...

People are assuming you're a troll because of the personal snips and clear and obvious disgruntled attitude towards several bloggers. That's a giveaway to a lot of people, me included.
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283. washingtonian115 10:05 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting Hurricanes101:
Interesting to note that 95L is the only invest # to be 3 for 3 in named storms
That's because 95 is one of the best numbers out there!!.That's when my daughter was born.I was also still in my 20's.Why must I age!!!!!
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284. BDADUDE 10:06 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting youneedawaterbuffalo:
Jeff needs to close this childish playground of a blog down. Most of the credible bloggers have already left. The only good one left is Levi32, and perhaps a few more.
Im good and I know at least another 50 good dudes/dudettes.
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285. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:07 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Tropical Cyclone Report IMO's:

Arlene - 70 mph
Bret - 70 mph
Cindy - 70 mph (OFFICIAL)
Don - 50 mph
Emily - 50 mph
Franklin - 45 mph
Gert - 60 mph
Harvey - 65/70 mph
Irene - 120 mph
Jose - 45 mph
Katia - 135 mph
Lee - 60 mph
Maria - 75 mph
Nate - 70 mph
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287. washingtonian115 10:08 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
While some of the bloggers are about to get into a fight I'm just gonna dissapear into the background.
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288. FrankZapper 10:09 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
I am becoming confident that the GOM's shields are up at full power captain. We have fronts captain in place to deflect and disturbances.

Our science officer Dr Master Spock says there are no enemy vessels on the radar. He says they will spread rumors that we are downcasting.
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289. BaltimoreBrian 10:10 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:
Tropical Cyclone Report IMO's:

Arlene - 70 mph
Bret - 70 mph
Cindy - 70 mph (OFFICIAL)
Don - 50 mph
Emily - 50 mph
Franklin - 45 mph
Gert - 60 mph
Harvey - 65/70 mph
Irene - 120 mph
Jose - 45 mph
Katia - 135 mph
Lee - 60 mph
Maria - 75 mph
Nate - 70 mph


Do you think Maria will be demoted from 80 mph in some of her advisories?
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290. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:11 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting youneedawaterbuffalo:


Taz, you have claimed almost, if not every storm that formed this yr to be a land threat and labeled those who thought they would be fish storms as trolls. Turns out, most of the storms this yr have been fish storms.


Incorrect.

There have been little fish storms this season -- Cindy, Ten.

2/15 isn't necessarily "most" of the storms.
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291. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:11 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Do you think Maria will be demoted from 80 mph in some of her advisories?


No, I do not. She had the appearance of an 80 mph hurricane, IMO.
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292. MississippiWx 10:12 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
98L still has an elongated center with what appears to be multiple areas of vorticity. It still needs another day to organize before it can become a tropical depression.

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293. washingtonian115 10:12 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting BaltimoreBrian:


Do you think Maria will be demoted from 80 mph in some of her advisories?
I thought in was OFFICIAL that Maria was an 80mph hurricane?.
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294. outlookchkr 10:12 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting stormpetrol:
I think 98L maybe close to TD status
This one sure looks like it could be a Western Mover and possibly in the Cayman sights in the future. GFS even has that little Ivan dip, although this time well before Jamaica. Something to definitely watch.
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295. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:13 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting MississippiWx:
98L still has an elongated center with what appears to be multiple areas of vorticity. It still needs another day to organize before it can become a tropical depression.



Not really:

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296. TropicalAnalystwx13 10:14 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting washingtonian115:
I thought in was OFFICIAL that Maria was an 80mph hurricane?.


The National Hurricane Center does these things called Tropical Cyclone Reports, in which they can go back and look back over a storm, to decide whether they need to raise or lower the intensity, or leave it the storm.

That is how the storms that were originally tropical storms can be upgraded to hurricanes.
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298. MississippiWx 10:17 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting TropicalAnalystwx13:


Not really:



Using ASCAT to determine what could be multiple areas of vorticity is not wise. For one thing, there are too many holes in ASCAT. Second of all, the vort centers don't necessarily have to reflect at the surface. There are several mid-level vort maxes spinning around which will make it difficult to consolidate.
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299. BDADUDE 10:18 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting Tazmanian:



not sure what your seeing most of 98L mode runs has it heading for land
Looks like it will follow a similiar track to Katia.
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300. FrankZapper 10:18 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting cantgetitrightever:
most of the regulars on here hate hearing that storms will fail or fizzle i think they want all cat 5 and destruction thats sad but the facts are the facts this season is over............. now dont strat calling me a troll because your season was dull and is over
Quoting cantgetitrightever:
most of the regulars on here hate hearing that storms will fail or fizzle i think they want all cat 5 and destruction thats sad but the facts are the facts this season is over............. now dont strat calling me a troll because your season was dull and is over
agree
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301. CybrTeddy 10:18 PM GMT on September 19, 2011    
Quoting youneedawaterbuffalo:


Well he did say they would all become really powerful which didnt turn out except a few


Lee and Irene did enough damage to the CONUS for the season, 2011 will be remembered for that.
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