Extreme temperatures of 2011: 7 national all-time heat records; 1 cold record

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 4:14 PM GMT on January 13, 2012

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The year 2011 was the tenth warmest year on record for the globe, but the warmest year on record when a La Niña event was present (Ricky Rood has a discussion of this in his lastest post.) Seven nations and one territory broke all-time hottest temperature records. This is a far cry from 2010 (which tied for the warmest year on record), when twenty nations (plus one UK territory) set all-time hottest temperature records. One all-time coldest temperature record was set in 2011; this was the first time since 2009 one of these records was set. The all-time cold record occurred in Zambia, which ironically also set an all-time hottest temperature record in 2011. Here, then, are the most most notable extreme temperatures globally in 2011, courtesy of weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera:

Hottest temperature in the world in 2011: 53.3°C (127.9°F) in Mitrabah, Kuwait, August 3
Coldest temperature in the world in 2011: -80.2°C (-112.4°F) at Dome Fuji, Antarctica, September 18
Hottest temperature in the Southern Hemisphere: 49.4°C (120.9°F) at Roebourne, Australia, on December 21
Coldest temperature in the Northern Hemisphere: -67.2°C (-89°F) at Summit, Greenland, March 18. This is also the coldest March temperature ever recorded in the Northern Hemisphere.
Hottest undisputed 24-hour minimum temperature in world history: A minimum temperature of 41.7°C (107°F) measured at Khasab Airport in Oman on June 27


Figure 1. Seven countries and one territory set all-time hottest temperature records in 2011, and one nation set an all-time coldest temperature record. Image credit: Ilissa Ocko, Princeton University.

New country hottest temperature records set in 2011
Iraq recorded its hottest temperature on record on August 3, 2011 in Tallil (Ali military airbase), when the mercury hit 53°C (127.4°F). The previous record was 52.3°C recorded at Diwanya FOB airbase a few days before.

Armenia recorded its hottest temperature on record on July 31 in Meghri, when the mercury hit 43.7°C (110.7°F). The previous record was 43.1°C in Meghri on July 17, 2005.

Iran recorded its hottest temperature in its history on July 28, 2011, when the mercury hit 53°C (127.4°F) at Dehloran. The previous previous record was set just one day earlier at Omidieh and Shoshtar, when the mercury hit 52.6°C (126.6°F). Older hotter temperatures have been measured in Iran using automated stations, but these temperatures have been found to be overestimated.

Kuwait recorded its hottest temperature on record on August 3, 2011, when the mercury hit 53.3°C (127.9°F) at Mitrabah. The previous record was 53.1°C in Sulaibiya on June 15, 2010. The Kuwait Meteorological Center confirmed the reading as authentic, though the temperature sensor had problems between 2009 and July 2010. Some temperatures as high as 53.5°C measured at the Kuwait City Airport during 2011 were in error. The 53.3°C (127.9°F) at Mitrabah thus represents:

1) The hottest temperature measured on Earth in 2011
2) New official national record for Kuwait
3) Second highest (undisputed) temperature ever recorded in Asia
4) Highest temperature ever recorded in an Arabic country
5) Third hottest location in the planet together with Lake Havasu City, AZ (after Death
Valley, CA and Moenjodaro, Pakistan)
6) A new world record for August

China broke its national heat record for both uninhabited and inhabited locations on July 14, 2011, when the temperature soared to 50.2°C (122.4°F) at a automatic station near Adyngkol Lake (just south of Turfan), and 49.4°C (120.9°F) at the town of Tuyoq. A higher reading of 50.7°C at Aydingkol Mirabilite on 23 July 1986 has not been verified as official by the Chinese.

Republic of the Congo set a new all-time extreme heat record on March 8, 2011, when the temperature hit 39.2°C (102.6°F) at M'Pouya. Congo's previous all-time hottest temperature was 39.0°C (102.2°F) at Impfondo on May 14, 2005.

Zambia set an all-time national heat record of 109.0°F (42.8°C) at Mfuwe, on October 26, 2011, breaking the previous national record of 108.1°F (42.3°C) also set at Mfuwe, on November 17, 2010. A no longer functioning station at Lusitu, Zambia measured a higher temperature in November 1990, but surrounding stations were all about 10°C cooler, so the Lusitu 1990 reading is considered unreliable.

The French Southern and Antarctic Lands Territory tied its all-time hottest temperature record when Europa Island recorded 35.6°C (96.1°F) on November 12, 2011. The previous record was set at Juan de Nova Island on March 31, 1997.

New country coldest temperature records set in 2011
For the first time since 2009, a new national extreme cold temperature record was set. Zambia set an all-time national cold record of -9°C (16°F) at Choma on June 27, 2011, breaking the previous national record of -8°C (18°F), set on July 10, 1898, at Nalisa Western Province.

Special mention:
Russia had its hottest temperature on record at a regular synoptic reporting staion on July 30, 2011, when the mercury hit 44.3°C (111.7°F) at Divnoe in Russia's Kalmykia Republic. Three hotter temperatures have been recorded at automated stations: 45.4°C in 2010 at a hydrological station at Utta, plus readings of 45°C at El'ton and 44.5°C at Verhjnky Baskunkak in August 1940.

Weather records researcher Maximiliano Herrera is the primary source of the weather records listed here and has worked tremendously hard to research them. He maintains a comprehensive list of extreme temperature records for every nation in the world on his website. If you reproduce this list of extremes, please cite Maximiliano Herrera as the primary source of the weather records.

Other posts looking back at the remarkable weather events of 2011
U.S. weather in 2011: unprecedented rains and wet/dry extremes
Top ten global weather events of 2011
2011: Year of the Tornado
Deadliest weather disaster of 2011: the East African drought
Tropical Storm Lee's flood in Binghamton: was global warming the final straw?
Wettest year on record in Philadelphia; 2011 sets record for wet/dry extremes in U.S.
Hurricane Irene: New York City dodges a potential storm surge mega-disaster


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543. ncgnto25
1:19 AM GMT on January 17, 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:

No, I'm not "sitting here and defending my position that it has to be an issue whether it is happening or not". That statement is pure baloney, and for this reason: man-made warming is happening. There's no "whether or not".

Now, you've made the assumption that I get my info from "...the political hate media (Rush, Hannity, MSNBC, Fox, Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, O'reilly)." I do on occasion watch/listen to/read a few of those, sure. But I get my science from science books, science lectures, science periodicals, science websites, etc. And anyone who spends enough time learning at the intersection of science and public policy knows that, as I said yesterday, both parties are absolutely not equally to blame for inaction on climate change. Stating otherwise is also baloney, my friend. A few examples:

House Repubs Vote That Earth Is Not Warming: All Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee voted against an amendment that states that global warming exists

Most Republicans Don%u2019t Believe In Global Warming

Why Don%u2019t Republicans Believe in Climate Change?

Hot Mess: Why are conservatives so radical about the climate?

Republicans Against Science

(I could go on, but I'm sure everyone here knows how to do an internet search.)

At any rate, I didn't bring this up so I could try to make the claim that democrats and liberals are "better". I only mention it in response to your statements that we need to clean up the environment (a point with which I completely agree), and the only way that'll get done is to do a wholesale flush of both parties (a point with which I definitely do not). There are pro-polluter folks on both sides of the aisle--but you're going to find the overwhelming number of them on the right. Period.


And you obviously believe the left is better because they create a stalemate by countering the right and nothing at all happens. Every one of your 'scientific' posts is from the left. I could go on the web and counter every single one of your articles-AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER. We would still be doing nothing to work toward a cleaner earth. We need Democrats that say-wow-we are getting nowhere toward actually doing something. MAYBE WE SHOULD COME OFF OUR HARD STANCE TO THE FAR LEFT INSISTING EVERYTHING BE DONE NOW AND START ACCOMPLISHING SOMETHING.
We need Republicans that say-'you know, it is the right thing to clean up our environment and pursue cleaner energy, even if I don't believe in global warming. Maybe I should come off my hard stance to the right and start ensuring that the big energy companies (the ones that may be in the best position to finance the research) really are trying to do something toward cleaner energy instead of making excuses not to'. It is too easy for them to retain status quo. It will take a company with guts (and some combined voter pressure) to take the leap and go for it. It will never happen with this Congress. Vote them ALL out.
PS In the REAL world you will not convince them right now, so I say do what you can.
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542. SPLbeater
5:05 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting RitaEvac:


I'm leaving for good, see yall


oh...well...see ya
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541. aspectre
4:52 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
New Blog
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540. aspectre
4:18 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
487 bappit quoting "Americans make up half of the world's richest 1%"
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539. hydrus
4:00 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting Some1Has2BtheRookie:


"It only takes $34,000 per person [per year] to be amid the richest 1% of people in the world."

Hey! I finally made it to the top 1%, after you add in another 6.5 billion other poor people. sigh
Good morning Rook..Do you have a link to the top 1% stuff. It is interesting.
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538. hydrus
3:54 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting RitaEvac:


I'm leaving for good, see yall
Dont leave,,,,We,ll find you anyway..:)
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537. hydrus
3:50 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting ncgnto25:



Still not getting it, are you. We need to clean the environment up, whether this is happening or not. Congress is doing nothing-period-because of the polarization, and that is the way they want it. Therefore, we are NOT moving in that direction as quickly as we could. The 2 party system insures most of their jobs at a pay rate with amazing perks that most of us can only dream of. The radical right needs to acknowledge the basic obligation of our species to clean up the environment and work toward attempting to get away from fossil fuels. Neapolitan, you have your head too much in MSNBC lies, too. Get out there and get some information from outside the political hate media (Rush, Hannity, MSNBC, Fox, Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, O'reilly).The radical left has to realize we need to provide for our current needs, too. Both sides are lying. We have to push both sides into a reasonable goal towards a cleaner environment.If we cease to exist as a country, all of the work we have done or can do towards that end will be lost. We are in the best financial position ever (despite the recession) to improve the potential solutions now, and hopefully, create new ones. You will sit there and defend your position that it has to be an issue whether it is happening or not-and nothing gets done because WE do not insist the tug of war stop and a comprehensive plan be formulated. Get out of your comfort zone and do something. It is people on the far sides of the equation I am trying to reach to get them to realize we need to get rid of the hierarchy in Congress that is so established by voting out ALL of the incumbents for a few elections until they get the idea. They are not doing the job. They are busy trying to look good and keep their jobs.
Good post..The U.S. has managed a good bit of clean up with toxic waste sites and land fills, but the truth is, there is much more to be done. Some here can remember what happened at Love Canal, A vulgar act of irresponsibility, and an absolute tragedy for the people who lived there.( I had friends and relatives that lived near by )-This is a testament to what pollution does to us on the ground as well as the air..................Health problems, activism, and site cleanup
A protest by Love Canal residents, ca. 1978.

In 1976, two reporters for the Niagara Falls Gazette, David Pollak and David Russell, tested several sump-pumps near Love Canal and found toxic chemicals in them. The matter went quiet for more than a year and was resurrected by reporter Michael Brown, who then investigated potential health effects by carrying forth an informal door-to-door survey in early 1978, finding birth defects and many anomalies such as enlarged feet, heads, hands, and legs. He advised the local residents to create a protest group, which was led by resident Karen Schroeder, whose daughter had many (about a dozen) birth defects. The New York State Health Department followed suit and found an abnormal incidence of miscarriages. The dumpsite was declared an unprecedented state emergency on August 2, 1978. Mr. Brown, who wrote more than a hundred articles on the dump, also further tested groundwater and later found that the dump was three times the size officials knew, with possible ramifications beyond the original evacuation zone. He was also to discover that highly toxic dioxin was there. On August 2, 1978, Lois Gibbs, a local mother who called an election to head the Love Canal Homeowners' Association, began to further rally homeowners. Her son, Michael Gibbs, began attending school in September 1977. He developed epilepsy in December, suffered from asthma and a urinary tract infection, and had a low white blood cell count,[15][16] all associated with his exposure to the leaking chemical waste. Gibbs had learned from Mr. Brown that her neighborhood sat on top of 21,000 tons of buried chemical waste.[17]

In the following years, Gibbs led an effort to investigate community concerns about the health of its residents; she and other residents made repeated complaints of strange odors and "substances" that surfaced in their yards. In Gibbs' neighborhood, there was a high rate of unexplained illnesses, miscarriages, and mental retardation.[16] Furthermore, basements were often covered with a thick, black substance, and vegetation was also dying. In many yards, the only vegetation that grew were shrubby grasses.[18] Although city officials were asked to investigate the area, they did not act to solve the problem.According to the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in 1979, residents exhibited a "disturbingly high rate of miscarriages ... Love Canal can now be added to a growing list of environmental disasters involving toxics, ranging from industrial workers stricken by nervous disorders and cancers to the discovery of toxic materials in the milk of nursing mothers." In one case, two out of four children in a single Love Canal family had birth defects; one girl was born deaf with a cleft palate, an extra row of teeth, and slight retardation, and a boy was born with an eye defect.[19] A survey conducted by the Love Canal Homeowners Association found that 56% of the children born from 1974%u20131978 had at least one birth defect.[20]--------------------------------------- ----------------------------Here is the Wiki link, it is a bit heart-wrenching and is worth reading...Link
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536. RitaEvac
3:43 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting SPLbeater:


what r u getting at there


I'm leaving for good, see yall
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535. SPLbeater
3:42 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting RitaEvac:
Hmmm... hearing triumphant horn playing and nobody knows who's playing it....or where it's coming from, seems to be coming from the sky


what r u getting at there
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534. Xyrus2000
3:40 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:

We don't. And why would we? Everyone knows they're inexhaustible in supply; clean; inexpensive; their extraction doesn't require the destruction of land or the oceans; burning them doesn't produce dangerous amounts of CO2 or sulfur aerosols or soot; they're abundant here in the United States, so we don't ever have to worry whether unstable states or greedy cartels might cut off our supply; fluctuations in their price has absolutely no effect on our nation's or the world's economy; and so on. No, only long-haired pot-smoking tree-hugging granola-munching liberal intellectualoid dirty lazy smelly hippie-dippie druggie commie freak pinko socialist marxist fascist leftist atheists think we need to stop using fossil fuels. ;-)


You forgot "heathen satanic atheist heretics".
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533. aspectre
3:35 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
524 RevElvis "Carbon Dioxide Affecting Fish Brains"

13 aspectre "...We're screwed."
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532. RitaEvac
3:33 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Hmmm... hearing triumphant horn playing and nobody knows who's playing it....or where it's coming from, seems to be coming from the sky
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531. Neapolitan
3:33 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting SPLbeater:


why do we need to stop with fossel fuels?

We don't. And why would we? Everyone knows they're inexhaustible in supply; clean; inexpensive; their extraction doesn't require the destruction of land or the oceans; burning them doesn't produce dangerous amounts of CO2 or sulfur aerosols or soot; they're abundant here in the United States, so we don't ever have to worry whether unstable states or greedy cartels might cut off our supply; fluctuations in their price has absolutely no effect on our nation's or the world's economy; and so on. No, only long-haired pot-smoking tree-hugging granola-munching liberal intellectualoid dirty lazy smelly hippie-dippie druggie commie freak pinko socialist marxist fascist leftist atheists think we need to stop using fossil fuels. ;-)

EDIT: per Xyrus in #534, also "heathen satanic heretics".
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530. SPLbeater
3:23 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
hey does anybody got a good WEATHER blog to read, I would like something new to read right now lol....im sure Jeff is preparing one or preparing to prepare one
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529. aspectre
3:17 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
525 Ameister12 quoting "...five-storey building collapsed in the Ashrafiyeh district of the Lebanese capital..."

Death toll is already up to 19, along with 12 injured with no more survivors expected. And it's unlikely that only 31 people would be in a 5-story building.
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528. SPLbeater
3:16 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
say bye bye to 93S...over Mozambique, Africa now. :D
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527. TampaSpin
3:09 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting PensacolaDoug:


Like arguing with the left-wing loons...




Ya think...:)
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526. SPLbeater
3:09 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting ncgnto25:



Still not getting it, are you. We need to clean the environment up, whether this is happening or not. Congress is doing nothing-period-because of the polarization, and that is the way they want it. Therefore, we are NOT moving in that direction as quickly as we could. The 2 party system insures most of their jobs at a pay rate with amazing perks that most of us can only dream of. The radical right needs to acknowledge the basic obligation of our species to clean up the environment and work toward attempting to get away from fossil fuels. Neapolitan, you have your head too much in MSNBC lies, too. Get out there and get some information from outside the political hate media (Rush, Hannity, MSNBC, Fox, Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, O'reilly).The radical left has to realize we need to provide for our current needs, too. Both sides are lying. We have to push both sides into a reasonable goal towards a cleaner environment.If we cease to exist as a country, all of the work we have done or can do towards that end will be lost. We are in the best financial position ever (despite the recession) to improve the potential solutions now, and hopefully, create new ones. You will sit there and defend your position that it has to be an issue whether it is happening or not-and nothing gets done because WE do not insist the tug of war stop and a comprehensive plan be formulated. Get out of your comfort zone and do something. It is people on the far sides of the equation I am trying to reach to get them to realize we need to get rid of the hierarchy in Congress that is so established by voting out ALL of the incumbents for a few elections until they get the idea. They are not doing the job. They are busy trying to look good and keep their jobs.


why do we need to stop with fossel fuels?
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525. Ameister12
3:01 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Our Foreign Staff

9:34AM GMT 16 Jan 2012

The five-storey building collapsed in the Ashrafiyeh district of the Lebanese capital on Sunday evening. The victims included Lebanese and Sudanese nationals.

"We are hoping to find people alive. There are still some missing," Ali Hassan Khalil, the health minister told LBC television. Twelve people were being treated in hospital, he added.

The national ANI news agency reported on Monday, citing the Lebanese Red Cross.



"Up until now, 11 bodies and 11 injured Lebanese nationals and foreigners have been recovered from the rubble," the report said, adding that rescue operations mounted during the night were continuing Monday morning.
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524. RevElvis
2:55 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
"Carbon Dioxide Affecting Fish Brains"
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523. aspectre
2:45 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
501 Xyrus2000 "Well, not quite true. It does depend on which sequence our sun will follow but the current thinking is our planet will be vaporized when the sun enters it's red giant phase in a few billion years."

meh... Moving Earth ain't all that hard. And when ya can move the Earth, it's even easier to move mirror shields to protect against the possibility of a pulsating red-giant phase*.
Then ya can move the Earth back toward the subsequent white-dwarf, which gives ya an extra few billion years more than the current theoretical age of the (visible) Universe.
Capturing a red-dwarf puts the survival time into the trillion-year range.

Of course, Earth would hafta develop intelligent life first... which seems a bit of a stretch considering the FermiParadox. And humanity thus far seems no more intelligent than yeast. Less intelligent: at least yeast makes beer in the process of killing itself off with its waste products.

* The Sun's size and metallicity combined with currently unknown details of stellar evolution makes it possible that its red-giant won't just "fade gently into the night."

BTW -- iodineman put some math behind the idea of using asteroids and Jupiter to gravitationally slingshot Earth into a higher orbit (on the now defunct Dr.Neutrino physics forum) several years previous to the publication of the Korycansky, Laughlin, Adams paper.

502 KoritheMan "Good thing I'll be long gone."

Quitter.
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522. AussieStorm
2:04 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Bill Read to retire from National Hurricane Center
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521. ILwthrfan
1:52 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting Xyrus2000:


No, largely things like this are of our own design.

The way we've handled food production up till now has been to selectively breed for the desired traits and then homogenize the result to create the highest production value. While this works quite well, it only works so long as parasites, bacteria, etc. don't adapt to that particular plant/animal stock. Once they do, they can reach pandemic proportions very quickly as there is little genetic variation among the population to slow down such spreading.


My bad, he had posted several articles in row (sunlinepr)of end world 2012 ect...I should have included of his articles in quotes.

Agreed, but like the Maya, we to are over exploiting our resources with massive over-population. The result could very well be a quick and devastating collapse to the human race. We are struggling both in food and energy production on a global scale.

As you said, I think Dr. M did an article on the exact idea you highlighted on. Something like a 30% reduction in crop production over the next 50-100 yrs, will result from infestation of insects to our food and increased prolonged droughts effecting the world's primary grain belts due to Climate Change.

We are at a cross road for our species.
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520. Neapolitan
1:52 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
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519. Neapolitan
1:51 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting ncgnto25:



Still not getting it, are you. We need to clean the environment up, whether this is happening or not. Congress is doing nothing-period-because of the polarization, and that is the way they want it. Therefore, we are NOT moving in that direction as quickly as we could. The 2 party system insures most of their jobs at a pay rate with amazing perks that most of us can only dream of. The radical right needs to acknowledge the basic obligation of our species to clean up the environment and work toward attempting to get away from fossil fuels. Neapolitan, you have your head too much in MSNBC lies, too. Get out there and get some information from outside the political hate media (Rush, Hannity, MSNBC, Fox, Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, O'reilly).The radical left has to realize we need to provide for our current needs, too. Both sides are lying. We have to push both sides into a reasonable goal towards a cleaner environment.If we cease to exist as a country, all of the work we have done or can do towards that end will be lost. We are in the best financial position ever (despite the recession) to improve the potential solutions now, and hopefully, create new ones. You will sit there and defend your position that it has to be an issue whether it is happening or not-and nothing gets done because WE do not insist the tug of war stop and a comprehensive plan be formulated. Get out of your comfort zone and do something. It is people on the far sides of the equation I am trying to reach to get them to realize we need to get rid of the hierarchy in Congress that is so established by voting out ALL of the incumbents for a few elections until they get the idea. They are not doing the job. They are busy trying to look good and keep their jobs.

No, I'm not "sitting here and defending my position that it has to be an issue whether it is happening or not". That statement is pure baloney, and for this reason: man-made warming is happening. There's no "whether or not".

Now, you've made the assumption that I get my info from "...the political hate media (Rush, Hannity, MSNBC, Fox, Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, O'reilly)." I do on occasion watch/listen to/read a few of those, sure. But I get my science from science books, science lectures, science periodicals, science websites, etc. And anyone who spends enough time learning at the intersection of science and public policy knows that, as I said yesterday, both parties are absolutely not equally to blame for inaction on climate change. Stating otherwise is also baloney, my friend. A few examples:

House Repubs Vote That Earth Is Not Warming: All Republicans on the House Energy and Commerce Committee voted against an amendment that states that global warming exists

Most Republicans Don%u2019t Believe In Global Warming

Why Don%u2019t Republicans Believe in Climate Change?

Hot Mess: Why are conservatives so radical about the climate?

Republicans Against Science

(I could go on, but I'm sure everyone here knows how to do an internet search.)

At any rate, I didn't bring this up so I could try to make the claim that democrats and liberals are "better". I only mention it in response to your statements that we need to clean up the environment (a point with which I completely agree), and the only way that'll get done is to do a wholesale flush of both parties (a point with which I definitely do not). There are pro-polluter folks on both sides of the aisle--but you're going to find the overwhelming number of them on the right. Period.
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518. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
1:46 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
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517. Progster
12:32 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Speaking of the end of the world...some winter weather en-route for Seattle...

FXUS66 KSEW 161202
AFDSEW

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SEATTLE WA
400 AM PST MON JAN 16 2012

.SYNOPSIS...SHOWERS WILL INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUE INTO
TUESDAY AS A DISTURBANCE EMBEDDED IN THE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT
MOVES OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON. A STRONG WARM FRONT WILL APPROACH THE
AREA FROM THE SOUTH TUESDAY NIGHT THEN MOVE THROUGH MOST OF WESTERN
WASHINGTON WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THIS SYSTEM MAY GIVE HEAVY
SNOW TO PORTIONS OF THE LOWLANDS BEFORE PRECIPITATION TURNS TO RAIN.
AN ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN IS EXPECTED THURSDAY THROUGH NEXT WEEKEND.

&&

.SHORT TERM..."LOOKS LIKE I PICKED THE WRONG WEEK TO QUIT DRINKING"
STEVE MCCROSKEY


PRETTY CHALLENGING NEXT FEW DAYS FOR THE FORECAST OFFICE. RIGHT NOW
WSR-88D'S PICKING UP A BAND OF SNOW SHOWERS REACHING THE COAST ALONG
WITH SOME ISOLATED SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE INTERIOR. SATELLITE IMAGERY
SHOWS NEXT SHORTWAVE EMBEDDED IN THE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT NEAR
130W. THIS FEATURE WILL MOVE OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON LATER THIS
MORNING INTO THIS AFTERNOON ENHANCING THE SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER THE
REGION. FOR THIS MORNING...OUTSIDE OF THE COAST JUST SOME ISOLATED
SHOWERS WITH THE UNSTABLE AIR MASS OVER THE AREA. 1000-850 MB
THICKNESS VALUES REMAINING IN THE 1280 METER RANGE ALL DAY...COLD
ENOUGH FOR ALL OF THE SHOWERS TO BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW. HEAVIEST
PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS ALONG THE COAST TODAY SO WILL ISSUE A WINTER
WEATHER ADVISORY FOR 1 TO 2 INCHES OF SNOW TODAY. FOR THE REMAINDER
OF THE AREA AMOUNTS OF AN INCH OR LESS LOOK TO BE THE NORM.
INITIALLY WITH THE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT THE CENTRAL SOUND WILL
GET SNOW SHADOWED. THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME WEAK CONVERGENCE
DEVELOPING OVER THE CENTRAL SOUND LATER THIS AFTERNOON INTO THIS
EVENING. THIS WILL BE THE BEST CHANCE FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW IN THE
CENTRAL SOUND.

COOL UPPER LEVEL TROUGH HANGING OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON TONIGHT INTO
TUESDAY WITH PLENTY OF SHOWER ACTIVITY OVER THE AREA. 1000-850
THICKNESS VALUES WILL REMAIN BELOW 1300 METERS MEANING ALL OF THE
SHOWER ACTIVITY WILL BE IN THE FORM OF SNOW. CURRENT QPF GUIDANCE
HAS A GENERAL 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW ACROSS THE REGION TONIGHT INTO
TUESDAY. THE FLOW ALOFT WILL BECOME MORE WESTERLY WHICH WILL SHIFT
THE SNOW SHADOW IN THE CENTRAL SOUND A BIT BUT AT THIS POINT IT
LOOKS LIKE THE LOWER SNOW AMOUNTS WILL BE OVER THE CENTRAL SOUND.
PLENTY OF SHOWER ACTIVITY FOR THE CASCADES AS WELL WITH THE 850 MB
WINDS RUNNING IN THE 25-35 KNOT RANGE. THIS IS GOOD BUT NOT GREAT
OROGRAPHIC FLOW BUT WITH NO LET UP TONIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY BY THE
TIME TUESDAY NIGHT ROLLS AROUND 1 TO 2 FEET OF SNOW IS EXPECTED.
WILL ISSUE A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR THE NORTH AND CENTRAL
CASCADES.

MOVING ON TO THE MAIN EVENT...TUESDAY NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY. WHILE
LAST NIGHT THERE WAS AT LEAST SOME CONSISTENCY IN THE MODELS ON THE
SCENARIO THAT WOULD DEVELOP JUST SOME TIMING DIFFERENCES...THE 00Z
RUNS HAVE MULTIPLE SOLUTIONS FOR WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS DOES
NOT LEAD TO MUCH CONFIDENCE IN THE FORECAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
FIRST UP...THE GFS SOLUTION. THE GFS SWINGS A WARM FRONT UP THROUGH
WESTERN WASHINGTON ON WEDNESDAY FOR A CLASSIC OVERRUNNING EVENT. THE
TIMING OF THE TRANSITION OF THE PRECIPITATION TYPE FROM SNOW TO RAIN
IS ALONG THE SOUTH COAST IN THE MORNING AND FROM ABOUT SEATTLE SOUTH
IN THE AFTERNOON WITH THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE COLD AIR HANGS TOUGH
OVER THE NORTHWEST INTERIOR INTO EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. THIS IS THE
FASTEST OF THE MODELS WITH THE TRANSITION TO THE WARMER AIR MASS.
EVEN WITH THIS "FASTER" TRANSITION...THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR
SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL OVER THE LOWLANDS...4 TO 8 INCHES...WITH
LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHWEST INTERIOR. THE
ECMWF 00Z RUN SHOWS A WARM FRONT ALSO MOVING UP INTO THE AREA ON
WEDNESDAY BUT IS SLOWER THAN THE GFS WITH THE TRANSITION TO A WARMER
AIR MASS...AT LEAST SIX HOURS. THE ECMWF ALSO TRACKS THE SURFACE LOW
INLAND A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH WHICH KEEPS THE COOL AIR SPILLING OUT
OF SOUTHERN BRITISH COLUMBIA OVER THE NORTHWEST INTERIOR
LONGER...INTO THURSDAY MORNING. WITH THE SLOWER TRANSITION TO THE
WARMER AIR MASS THE ECMWF HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR EVEN MORE SNOW OVER
THE INTERIOR OF WESTERN WASHINGTON ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHWEST
INTERIOR. THE NAM AND THE CANADIAN MODEL ARE FURTHER SOUTH WITH THE
PARENT LOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE WARM FRONT. IN THIS SCENARIO WESTERN
WASHINGTON NEVER TRANSITIONS OUT OF THE COLD AIR MASS ON WEDNESDAY
WITH SNOW ALL DAY. THE FURTHER SOUTH SOLUTION ALSO RESULTS IN LESS
PRECIPITATION OVER WESTERN WASHINGTON WITH THE 00Z RUN NOT BRINGING
ANY PRECIPITATION TO SEATTLE NORTHWARD BY 00Z THURSDAY. AT THIS
POINT THE ONLY MODEL SHOWING MUCH RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY IS THE GFS
BUT THE ECMWF HAS BEEN VERIFYING BETTER LATELY. AT THIS POINT THE
NAM CANADIAN SOLUTION LOOKS TO BE AN OUTLIER. NORMALLY I WOULD BE
RELUCTANT TO PUT OUT A WINTER STORM WATCH THIS FAR AHEAD OF TIME
GIVEN THE LARGE UNCERTAINTY IN THE SOLUTIONS BUT BECAUSE OF THE
POTENTIAL FOR A SIGNIFICANT SNOW EVENT FOR THE LOWLANDS WILL GO
AHEAD AND ISSUE A WATCH FOR WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY EVENING FOR
MOST OF WESTERN WASHINGTON. FELTON

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516. ncgnto25
12:05 PM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting Neapolitan:
Wow, that was quite an angry response. But there wasn't a word said about the potentially incredible environmental damage inherent in an ANWR spill due to the logistical nightmare of mounting a timely and effective response. Any thoughts on that matter?

Now, you claim I have no "real world answers". That's not true at all. In fact, here's one: let's stop listening to the lies Big Energy tells us; that's the first step. Here's another: let's stop listening to Big Energy's media mouthpieces as they shove down our throats story after story about the "debacle" of Solyndra, and talk instead about the thousands of other increasingly successful alternative energy stories. And here's yet another: let's stop pretending that fossil fuels are a clean, safe, sustainable alternative to clean energy. And one more: let's stop kidding ourselves that waiting before doing anything to mitigate climate change will save us money in the long run. (It won't; mitigation later will cost trillions.)

Anyway, since we're here, I've a few responses to your comment #345:

First, it's extremely relevant that people understand that the planet is warming because of our burning of fossil fuels. Failing to acknowledge that makes it far too easy for people to throw their hands in the air and do nothing about it.

Second, if the U.S. could somehow get the political will to cut our emissions even a bit (much less 50%), it would indeed make a huge "hill of beans". We're still far and away the largest per-capita CO2 emitter of any large-sized nation, so an extreme decrease in our emissions. Also, we like to fancy our nation as a--or the--world leader; as such, we have an obligation to clean up our act first before asking others to do so.

Finally, you've used a little false equivalency. Especially where energy policy is concerned, one party is far and away more adamant about maintaining the fossil fuel status quo. So much so, in fact, that every one of the current crop of GOP Presidential wannabes has had to deny climate science and scientists in order to rise above single-digit poll numbers (sorry, Jon; you don't stand a chance). There are certainly corrupt individuals on both sides of the aisle in it for themselves. But it's unfair and unwise to claim both POVs are equally removed from reality. They aren't.

Bottom line: continuing to live The Big Lie of Denialism and therefore doing nothing is definitely going to "leave us powerless and defenseless". And I have no "grand dreams for a cleaner world"; I just think we have a moral imperative to not leave our children an unliveably overheated ball of carbon-clogged air. Who wouldn't think that?



Still not getting it, are you. We need to clean the environment up, whether this is happening or not. Congress is doing nothing-period-because of the polarization, and that is the way they want it. Therefore, we are NOT moving in that direction as quickly as we could. The 2 party system insures most of their jobs at a pay rate with amazing perks that most of us can only dream of. The radical right needs to acknowledge the basic obligation of our species to clean up the environment and work toward attempting to get away from fossil fuels. Neapolitan, you have your head too much in MSNBC lies, too. Get out there and get some information from outside the political hate media (Rush, Hannity, MSNBC, Fox, Olberman, Matthews, Maddow, O'reilly).The radical left has to realize we need to provide for our current needs, too. Both sides are lying. We have to push both sides into a reasonable goal towards a cleaner environment.If we cease to exist as a country, all of the work we have done or can do towards that end will be lost. We are in the best financial position ever (despite the recession) to improve the potential solutions now, and hopefully, create new ones. You will sit there and defend your position that it has to be an issue whether it is happening or not-and nothing gets done because WE do not insist the tug of war stop and a comprehensive plan be formulated. Get out of your comfort zone and do something. It is people on the far sides of the equation I am trying to reach to get them to realize we need to get rid of the hierarchy in Congress that is so established by voting out ALL of the incumbents for a few elections until they get the idea. They are not doing the job. They are busy trying to look good and keep their jobs.
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515. islander101010
11:54 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting PensacolaDoug:


Like arguing with the left-wing loons...
we vote too
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513. trunkmonkey
11:38 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
How about all the snow and ice in Alaska, bet those polar bears aren't drowning in warm waters this year.
Weather cycles or is cyclical, has been always will be.
But records on climate and weather is new, only about a hundred plus years, and the world is millions of years old.
Just in my lay opinion, the jury is out till we get more data on climatology facts.
It's nice to report it, but to say this or that, we don't know.
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512. Neapolitan
10:40 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting PlazaRed:
Morning Everybody,
Just reading through, here and a few other site links and I noticed that on the disaster site:-

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

A technological disaster is occurring in Beirut in the Lebanon.I cant find out any more info but its as the very least intriguing.
Something about 4.30 am, nothing on the BBC that I can find.

A five-story apartment building collapsed in Beirut's Ashrafieh neighborhood, killing more than a dozen.
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511. Guysgal
10:20 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting PlazaRed:
Morning Everybody,
Just reading through, here and a few other site links and I noticed that on the disaster site:-

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

A technological disaster is occurring in Beirut in the Lebanon.I cant find out any more info but its as the very least intriguing.
Something about 4.30 am, nothing on the BBC that I can find.

It was a plane crash into the ocean. All 90 passengers feared dead after aircraft caught fire.
Quoting PlazaRed:
Morning Everybody,
Just reading through, here and a few other site links and I noticed that on the disaster site:-

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

A technological disaster is occurring in Beirut in the Lebanon.I cant find out any more info but its as the very least intriguing.
Something about 4.30 am, nothing on the BBC that I can find.
Quoting PlazaRed:
Morning Everybody,
Just reading through, here and a few other site links and I noticed that on the disaster site:-

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

A technological disaster is occurring in Beirut in the Lebanon.I cant find out any more info but its as the very least intriguing.
Something about 4.30 am, nothing on the BBC that I can find.
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510. PlazaRed
9:18 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Morning Everybody,
Just reading through, here and a few other site links and I noticed that on the disaster site:-

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php

A technological disaster is occurring in Beirut in the Lebanon.I cant find out any more info but its as the very least intriguing.
Something about 4.30 am, nothing on the BBC that I can find.
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509. HadesGodWyvern (Mod)
7:33 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Seychelles Meteorological Services
Tropical Cyclone Advisory #6
DEPRESSION SUBTROPICALE DANDO (06-20112012)
10:00 AM RET January 16 2012
=======================================

At 6:00 AM UTC, Subtropical Depression Dando (990 hPa) located at 25.0S 35.1E has 10 minute sustained winds of 45 knots with gusts of 65 knots. The depression is reported as moving northwest at 14 knots.

Dvorak Intensity: NIL

Gale Force Winds
================
35 NM and 60 NM from the center in the southern semi-circle

Near Gale Force Winds
========================
40 NM from the center, extending up to 95 NM in the southeastern quadrant and up to 115 NM in the southwestern quadrant

Forecast and Intensity
=======================

12 HRS: 23.8S 33.8E - 30 knots (Depression sur Terre)
24 HRS: 23.2S 32.6E - 25 knots (Depression sur Terre)

Additional Information
======================

Latest satellite and microwave fix show that the system temporarily accelerated earlier this morning on a due northwesterly track that reminds of Tropical Cyclone Favio track in year 2007 a few degrees to the south.

Time of landfall is now close and should be done within the next 3 to 4 hours near the city of Guissico (an area rarely affected directly by cyclone tracks) Dando still keeps subtropical characteristics (clouds tops are relatively warm, fluctuating wrapping convection). 37 ghz microwave imagery still depict an excellent low level organization with an eye like feature. Winds structure remains highly asymmetric. According to ASCAT data of last night and current motion, it is estimated that strong winds in the 40-45 knots range are present within the southwestern semi-circle. Much weaker winds (barely 30 kt) should occur in the northern semi-circle.

Currently, most of significant associated weather remains offshore but is very close to affect the coastal areas between Xai-Xai and Quissico. Strong winds (gusts close to 110-120 km/h) are expected, mainly west of landfall area. Heavy rains with 24hr rain rate in the order of 100-150 mm are expected within the affected areas.
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508. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
7:11 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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507. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
6:56 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
We all know, from what we experience with and within ourselves, that our conscious acts spring from our desires and our fears. Intuition tells us that that is true also of our fellows and of the higher animals. We all try to escape pain and death, while we seek what is pleasant. We are all ruled in what we do by impulses; and these impulses are so organised that our actions in general serve for our self preservation and that of the race. Hunger, love, pain, fear are some of those inner forces which rule the individual's instinct for self preservation. At the same time, as social beings, we are moved in the relations with our fellow beings by such feelings as sympathy, pride, hate, need for power, pity, and so on. All these primary impulses, not easi ly described in words, are the springs of man's actions. All such action would cease if those powerful elemental forces were to cease stirring within us. Though our conduct seems so very different from that of the higher animals, the primary instincts are much aloke in them and in us. The most evident difference springs from the important part which is played in man by a relatively strong power of imagination and by the capacity to think, aided as it is by language and other symbolical devices. Thought is the organising factor in man, intersected between the causal primary instincts and the resulting actions. In that way imagination and intelligence enter into our existence in the part of servants of the primary instincts. But their intervention makes our acts to serve ever less merely the immediate claims of our instincts.

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

Einstein.
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506. Xyrus2000
6:10 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting ILwthrfan:


Those tricky Mayans may of been on to something....


No, largely things like this are of our own design.

The way we've handled food production up till now has been to selectively breed for the desired traits and then homogenize the result to create the highest production value. While this works quite well, it only works so long as parasites, bacteria, etc. don't adapt to that particular plant/animal stock. Once they do, they can reach pandemic proportions very quickly as there is little genetic variation among the population to slow down such spreading.

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505. SPLbeater
6:05 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting HurricaneDean07:
Hey everyone, its been a while...
just wanted to check in on what's going on in the tropics now, decided to take a short break from my Offseason "Vacation"
Been posting stuff on twitter, but not here...
For the record:
my analogs i'm using according to the fall event patterns are 1996 and 2008. It will change by spring though, also my predictions are setting at
16 Named storms
7 Hurricanes
5 Major Hurricanes

The eastern pacific will remain at about the same numbers from laste year, though a little higher:
14 named storms
6 Hurricanes(Less energy focused in the EPAC)
3 Major Hurricanes(Same reason as ABOVE ^^)

By points of the 2012 season are:
(*DISCLAIMER*) The steering pattern is the true tell to what will happen, and this forecast BELOW should not be fully trusted...

As of the analogs and patterns i've observed. I believe Sideswipes to the western Florida coast, storms riding up the east coast, and the Gulf will not be as void of big and stronger storms.
Threatened areas:
Florida
Bahamas
Eastern coast
Central-Northern Gulf coast


i would greatly enjoy your weather posting around here to give me somebody to talk to! (that isnt concerned about some fake warming crap lol)
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504. SPLbeater
6:04 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting washingtonian115:
Looks like people are getting back to arguing again about GW.Um bye till tomorrow.


i get sick of it too. sometimes i question why i joined wunderground
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503. SPLbeater
6:03 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting bappit:

This is more of a disaster blog than a purely weather blog. Global warming is a slow-motion disaster. Tsunami's seem to move in slow motion because they are so large (the jumbo jet effect). Tornadoes come and go pretty quickly. Earthquakes are downright freaky--though the compression waves allow some warning time before the really bad shear waves arrive, unless you are are near the epicenter.

Boats running aground and listing over. Satellites falling from orbit. Solar storms. Tropical storms. See a trend?

Here is perhaps another disaster ... from a news article titled "Americans make up half of the world's richest 1%".

"The true global middle class, falls far short of owning a home, having a car in a driveway, saving for retirement and sending their kids to college. In fact, people at the world's true middle -- as defined by median income -- live on just $1,225 a year. (And, yes, Milanovic's numbers are adjusted to account for different costs of living across the globe.)

"In the grand scheme of things, even the poorest 5% of Americans are better off financially than two thirds of the entire world."

Here's a picture and the caption below it from the article.



"It only takes $34,000 per person [per year] to be amid the richest 1% of people in the world."


even seen jeff Masters write a blog that didnt contain atleast something about weather? noooope!
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502. KoritheMan
6:02 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting Xyrus2000:


Well, not quite true. It does depend on which sequence our sun will follow but the current thinking is our planet will be vaporized when the sun enters it's red giant phase in a few billion years.


Good thing I'll be long gone.
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501. Xyrus2000
5:59 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:


The world will never end.
only the way we know it will.


Well, not quite true. It does depend on which sequence our sun will follow but the current thinking is our planet will be vaporized when the sun enters it's red giant phase in a few billion years.
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500. Xyrus2000
5:54 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting Skeptic33:


Not really since Al Gore, etc got involved. It's all about $$$...

Keep up with actual facts, not what Al Gore and his butt buddies say so.


Wow. Not only have you demonstrated a complete lack of ability to construct any sort of intelligent argument, but you've also insulted one of the nicest, most well-respected members of this blog and most likely turned the community against you to boot.

Well trolled. Indeed sir, well trolled.

Enjoy your stay in Ignoristan.
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499. EYEStoSEA
5:21 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
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498. Some1Has2BtheRookie
5:17 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Quoting bappit:

This is more of a disaster blog than a purely weather blog. Global warming is a slow-motion disaster. Tsunami's seem to move in slow motion because they are so large (the jumbo jet effect). Tornadoes come and go pretty quickly. Earthquakes are downright freaky--though the compression waves allow some warning time before the really bad shear waves arrive, unless you are are near the epicenter.

Boats running aground and listing over. Satellites falling from orbit. Solar storms. Tropical storms. See a trend?

Here is perhaps another disaster ... from a news article titled "Americans make up half of the world's richest 1%".

"The true global middle class, falls far short of owning a home, having a car in a driveway, saving for retirement and sending their kids to college. In fact, people at the world's true middle -- as defined by median income -- live on just $1,225 a year. (And, yes, Milanovic's numbers are adjusted to account for different costs of living across the globe.)

"In the grand scheme of things, even the poorest 5% of Americans are better off financially than two thirds of the entire world."

Here's a picture and the caption below it from the article.



"It only takes $34,000 per person [per year] to be amid the richest 1% of people in the world."


"It only takes $34,000 per person [per year] to be amid the richest 1% of people in the world."

Hey! I finally made it to the top 1%, after you add in another 6.5 billion other poor people. sigh
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497. HurricaneDean07
5:12 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Well thats my post for now, might decide to check into the blog on and off during the next month or so...
Good night everyone...
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496. HurricaneDean07
5:10 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
sorry for misspelling things, this computer has a weird keyboard.
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495. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
5:07 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 175 Comments: 54770
494. HurricaneDean07
5:05 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Hey everyone, its been a while...
just wanted to check in on what's going on in the tropics now, decided to take a short break from my Offseason "Vacation"
Been posting stuff on twitter, but not here...
For the record:
my analogs i'm using according to the fall event patterns are 1996 and 2008. It will change by spring though, also my predictions are setting at
16 Named storms
7 Hurricanes
5 Major Hurricanes

The eastern pacific will remain at about the same numbers from laste year, though a little higher:
14 named storms
6 Hurricanes(Less energy focused in the EPAC)
3 Major Hurricanes(Same reason as ABOVE ^^)

By points of the 2012 season are:
(*DISCLAIMER*) The steering pattern is the true tell to what will happen, and this forecast BELOW should not be fully trusted...

As of the analogs and patterns i've observed. I believe Sideswipes to the western Florida coast, storms riding up the east coast, and the Gulf will not be as void of big and stronger storms.
Threatened areas:
Florida
Bahamas
Eastern coast
Central-Northern Gulf coast
Member Since: October 3, 2010 Posts: 40 Comments: 4129
493. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
5:04 AM GMT on January 16, 2012
Member Since: July 15, 2006 Posts: 175 Comments: 54770

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