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Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth movie review
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 5:02 PM GMT on June 19, 2006 +1
Al Gore's global warming movie, "An Inconvenient Truth," aims to call attention to the dangers society faces from climate change, and suggests urgent actions that need to be taken immediately. It is based on a slide show on climate Gore has presented to audiences worldwide over 1000 times in the past 15 years, but it is not purely a documentary. Gore's movie is an advocacy piece that is part documentary, part biography, and part campaign ad. I'll discuss all three of these aspects below. In brief, Al Gore has the right idea--climate change is an urgent issue that requires immediate action, and his thoughtful movie is a welcome addition to the usual array of mindless Hollywood summer fare. However, the movie has flaws. The presentation of the science is good, but not great--I rate it B minus. The excessive details on Al Gore's life make the movie too long, and his insistence on using the movie as something of a campaign ad detracts from its message.

An Inconvenient Truth as a biography of Al Gore
The creators of the movie presumably thought that simply presenting Gore's slide show would be too dull, so they decided to give the movie some human interest by interweaving a biography of Al Gore's life. Al Gore has led an interesting life, but "interesting" and "Al Gore" are not words one can often put together. As my daughter noted in her movie review yesterday, Al Gore is boring, and the 20 minutes or so of biography presented in An Inconvenient Truth is too much for a movie that is 1 hour and 36 minutes long. For example, I didn't really need to see the road where Al Gore totaled his car when he was 14 years old, or a replay of his loss in the 2000 election. On the other hand, some details of his past were interesting and relevant, such as the fact that he took college courses in the late 1960s from Harvard's Dr. Roger Revelle. Revelle and Dr. Charles Keeling were the pioneers in measurements of atmospheric CO2, and thus Gore got a very early exposure to the now infamous "Keeling Curve" (Figure 1), showing the build-up of atmospheric CO2. This early exposure to the significant impact humans were having on the atmosphere deeply affected Gore, and in the movie he details efforts he made to call attention to the issue long before most people had heard of it, back in the 1970s and 80s. Gore's slide show appropriately displays many graphs of the Keeling Curve, as it is probably the most important and most famous finding in climate change science.


Figure 1. The Keeling Curve is a record of CO2 measurements taken at he top of Mauna Loa volcano in Hawaii since 1958.

The science of An Inconvenient Truth
The science presented is mostly good, and at times compelling, but there are a few errors and one major distortion of the truth. Gore does an excellent job focusing on the most important issues, and usually presents them with a minimum of hype and distortion. The only exception to this comes in his treatment of global warming and extreme weather events such as hurricanes.

Basic global warming science
Gore begins the science part of his talk with a very easy to understand presentation on the basics of how the greenhouse effect works. His speech is clear, the graphics top notch, and he spices it up with a hilarious two-minute cartoon depicting roughneck global warming gases preventing poor Mr. Sunbeam from escaping Earth's atmosphere. Gore addresses the argument of skeptics who claim that the Earth is too big for humans to affect by showing Space Shuttle photos of how thin the atmosphere really is compared to the vast bulk of our planet. "The problem we now face is that this thin layer of atmosphere is being thickened by huge quantities of carbon dioxide," he asserts, which is not correct. The build-up of CO2 has virtually no effect on the density or thickness of Earth's atmosphere. The correct thing to say would have been, "The problem we now face is that this thin layer of atmosphere is being made more opaque to the transmission of infrared radiation (heat) by huge quantities of carbon dioxide."

Glaciers
Gore shows an impressive series of "then and now" images documenting the widespread retreat of many glaciers over the past century. Most dramatically, he shows Tanzania's Mt. Kilimanjaro, whose 11,000 year-old glaciers are almost gone. While not all the world's glaciers have retreated in the past century, Gore's presentation is an effective and reasonable way to show how global warming has affected the majority of the world's glaciers. Greenhouse skeptics, including Michael Crichton in his State of Fear book, are fond of bashing those who use Mt. Kilimanjaro as a poster child for demonstrating global warming. They cite scientific research showing that the glacial retreat on Mt. Kilimanjaro is due to drying of the atmosphere, not global warming. However, as discussed at great length in a realclimate.org post, the research which supposedly supports the skeptics' claims has been widely misquoted and misinterpreted, and much of Kilimanjaro's melting can indeed be ascribed to warming of the atmosphere since 1960.

Gore does an excellent job discussing the ice caps of Greenland and Antarctica. Again, Gore's graphics are superb, and he does a nice job narrating. He shows animations of what a 20-foot rise in sea level would do to Manhattan, Florida, India, and China. A 20-foot sea level rise is what we expect if all of Greenland or all of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet were to melt. Such a 20-foot rise is not expected by 2100, and it would have been appropriate for Gore to acknowledge that the consensus of climate scientists--as published in the most recent report by the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)--is that sea level is likely to rise between 4 and 35 inches, with a central value of 19 inches, by 2100. He should have also mentioned that temperatures in Greenland in the 1930s were about as warm as today's temperatures, so the current melting of Greenland's glaciers does have historical precedent. Nevertheless, the risk of a catastrophic melting and break-up of the Greenland or West Antarctic ice sheets is very real, when we consider that sea level before the most recent ice age was 15 feet higher than it is now. Gore is right to draw attention to what might happen if sea level rose 20 feet.

Drought and heat waves
An excellent discussion of the most serious climate change issue our generation is likely to face, the threat of increased drought and reduced water supplies, is presented. Gore makes reference to the extreme heat wave that affected Europe during the summer of 2004, and I was glad to see that he didn't blame the heat wave on global warming--he merely said that more events of this nature will be likely in the future.

Hurricanes and severe weather
The biggest failure in the movie's presentation of science comes in the discussion hurricanes and severe weather events. The devastation wrought by Katrina is used to very dramatic effect to warn of the dangers climate change presents. We are told that Katrina grew "stronger and stronger and stronger" as it passed over the warm waters of the Gulf of Mexico that were heated up by global warming. We are told that global warming is increasing the intensity of hurricanes, but not provided information on the great amount of uncertainty and vigorous scientific debate on this issue. Graphs showing recent record insurance losses from natural disasters are presented, but no mention is made of how increasing population and insistence on building in vulnerable areas are the predominant factors causing recent high insurance claims from disasters such as Katrina. Gore points to some unprecedented events in 2004 as evidence of increasing severe weather events worldwide--the record 10 typhoons in Japan, the most tornadoes ever in the U.S., and the appearance of Brazil's first hurricane ever. However, examples of this kind are meaningless. No single weather event, or unconnected series of severe weather events such as Gore presents, are indicative of climate change. In particular, the IPCC has not found any evidence that climate change has increased tornado frequency, or is likely to. Gore doesn't mention the unusually quiet tornado season of 2005, when for the first time ever, no tornadoes were reported in Oklahoma in the month of May.

Other science
Gore presents many other important aspects of climate change, including the threat of abrupt climate change leading to a shut-off of the Gulf Stream current, the increase in damaging insect infestations and tropical diseases, loss of coral reefs, loss of ice in the polar ice cap, and melting of permafrost in the Arctic. With the possible exception of his treatment of the spread of tropical diseases, all of these issues were presented with sound science.

An Inconvenient Truth as a campaign ad
Gore has repeatedly said that he has no intention of running for president again, and that this movie was created as part of his life-long passion to protect the environment. Gore undoubtedly does care very deeply about the planet, but this movie very much looks like a campaign ad. We are shown many scenes of Gore being applauded, Gore traveling the globe to present his slide show, and Gore working to uncover evidence of Republican shenanigans to alter or suppress climate change science. Gore is portrayed as a humble and tireless crusader for good, and if the movie is not intended to promote his political ambitions, it is certainly intended to benefit the Democratic Party. All this gets in the way of the movie's central message.

Conclusion
At the end of the movie, we are presented with the same image that Gore started the movie with, that of a beautiful river in the wilderness. Throughout the movie, Gore emphasizes how beautiful and special our planet is, and he does an effective job conveying this. He also makes a powerful case that something can and should be done to protect the planet, and it is worth hearing his message, even if the science is flawed and the messenger does get in the way of the message. Overall, the movie rates 2.5 stars--worth seeing, but you might want to wait until the DVD comes out.

At the end of the movie, Gore presents some tips on how everyone can contribute, and points people to his web site, www.climatecrisis.net. However, I would recommend that people who want to get educated about climate change get their information from web sites not associated with a politician; perhaps the least politicized source of information is the latest scientific summary of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change(IPCC), a group of over 2000 scientists from 100 countries working under a mandate from the United Nations in the largest peer-reviewed scientific collaboration in history.

Jeff Masters
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201. Hectorivan 3:58 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
sudden activity tonight on 72w 23w any thougths. Was not the GFS forcasting something like this?
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202. rwwhot 4:08 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
sleepy - its kinda like a car's accelerator, just slower. You push the pedal, then a few moments later your speed starts to increase. As to scientific evidence, I think its pretty settled, but its also fair to say that this stuff is pretty recent in the big scheme of things; so in Gore's defense, he may simply be making an effort not to exceed what the actual facts are showing so far.

I won't see the movie till it comes on cable, so I have to defer to what you recall from the movie otherwise.
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203. ProgressivePulse 4:11 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Hecto, Shear should see this through South FLA with some late week rain is all.
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204. ProgressivePulse 4:12 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
GFS was hinting one a very shallow system as it should be, and in my opinion, will be.
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205. snowboy 4:35 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Hey sleepy, good question re the spike in CO2 levels and the lack (as yet) of a similar spike in temperatures..

The Earth, as a planetary system, is in dynamic equilibrium (largely due to the effects of the biota, which in their interactions maintain the planet in a condition which is suitable for life). A sudden disturbance to the system (eg. in the form of a sudden upwards spike in the greenhouse gas CO2), will move the system but only slowly at first. There is a lag time.

There is the inertia of such a massive system (the oceans can absorb a tremendous amount of heat before they start to appreciably warm), and there are negative feedback loops (eg. plants will actually grow faster and better when there is more CO2 in the air, and that CO2 is taken up into the plant structure and not released again). There were also earlier in this century a number of short-term effects which were countering the effects of the increasing CO2:
- above ground nuclear explosions throwing up clouds of dust and fall out;
- humankind's dirty industrial development throwing up clouds of pollutants.

But we have stopped above ground nuclear testing and reduced our emissions of pollutants (for compelling reasons), so these short-term balances to the increasing CO2 levels have fallen away. What we are now starting to see is the temperature spike. It lags the CO2 spike, but it is building.

Particularly worrisome are the positive feedback loops which are coming into play. Two examples:
- the year-round Arctic sea ice is melting, so albedo across the Acrtic is increasing dramatically;
- the permafrost in northern regions is melting, liberating ever more methane (another greenhouse gas) from the depths of frozen wetlands.

At the same time, we are undermining the great planetary safety net - the biota. We are clearcutting forests, draining wetlands, polluting oceans and other surface waters, drying lakes and seas, and generally mismanaging things everywhere you would care to look. As a result, the natural ecosystems of the planet (which have in the past through natural selection helped drive the planet back toward the mdeian from excesses of heat or cold) are no longer able to perform that job as easily or efficiently as they were in the past.

We are just starting up what is in our lifetimes going to be an ominously steep upward spike in global temperatures, and no one knows where it is going to end.

The net result will be a planet much less liveable than what we have enjoyed in that brief period (130 or so years) in which modern first-world civilization has flourished. We will suffer the consequences, our descendants even more so.

The truly annoying thing is that we have a brief window of opportunity within which to act (using all the resources of our 1st world civilization), before our civilization is undermined and begins an inexorable decline. And what are we doing in this time of opportunity, in which the global warming problem has been identified and solutions are at hand? We are frittering it away, as the multinationals which profit from the status quo (and the governments they control) exert their influence and chant their ever-catchy mantra which can be boiled down to "Don't worry, be happy."

Our descendants will look back in wonder at our short-sightedness, and we will never live down the shame of having spoiled a great planet.
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206. sleepy 4:46 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
hmmm... so, basically, by the time we have the the numbers for the charts, there really won't be anyone around to say 'we told you so'.
207. weatherwannabe 4:48 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Any corpratist shills want to start the ant Dr. masters rants? Oh come on, Hannity and Limbaugh - ddi you already forget your pathetic marching orders, neocon pawns?
208. sleepy 5:03 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
do i smell bourbon?
209. Daveg 5:14 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Wow...snowboy, the author of the article I posted is a mechanical engineer, but the climate scientists quoted in the article are actual scientists.

Just because you don't like some of the info in the article, doesn't automatically make me or the scientists quoted in it "Right-wing nut jobs". Guess it makes you feel better to call names, etc....

I guess that makes all the alarmests "Left wing Socialist Quacks"?

I can dig up dozens more scientifically based articles, and not the non-science based dribble presented in Al Gore's "movie".

In any case, the best approach is steady work in the reduction in human CO2 emmisions (and other pollutants) through conservation, alternative fuels, etc. Not some mass panic based on inconclusive data ... and I mean inconclusive on BOTH SIDES of the argument.

However, it's late, and work tomorrow. Have fun freakin' out ...
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210. snowboy 5:18 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
no sleepy, the numbers are coming in from all sides and pointing ever more clearly at a spike in global temperatures:
- the warmest year on record globally (since we started keeping records) was 2005;
- 20 of the 21 warmest years experienced by this planet (since we started keeping records of land, atmosphere and water temperatures) occurred in the last 25 years;
- the mountain glaciers and the arctic sea ice are melting;
- record high temps are being set everywhere you look (if you look), very few record lows...

But by the time the last of the "anti-warming" camp have opened their eyes to what is happening around them, there may not be anyone left to apologize to..
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211. Skyepony (Mod) 5:25 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
DaveG~ How about digging out a peer approved scientific article for us?

For those that would like a baseline on what something to worry about would look like on the 850vort models check out the last few frames on today's 00Zcmc run, north of the leewards (Texas wouldn't really want that possible TD either). That's the 1st run showing anything like that & it's toward the end of the 144hr run...so don't freak out yet!!!
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212. snowboy 5:43 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Daveg, please have a read through the section of mechanical engineer Harris' "Canadian Free Press" article dealing with the melting of the Arctic ice cap, and let me know if agree with his "don't worry, be happy" conclusions. And maybe while your at it, do some research about what is actually happening in the Arctic.

Notwithstanding all the propaganda that you can dig up from any number of mechanical engineers and other dubious sources, the arctic ice IS melting and is now projected by our northern scientists to be GONE (in the summer months) within as little as 15 years. We are looking at a summer-time ice-free Arctic within a generation, with all that that implies for weather, ecosystems, northern communities, shipping, naval warfare and more.

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213. Fshhead 5:46 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
"Our descendants will look back in wonder at our short-sightedness, and we will never live down the shame of having spoiled a great planet."

How true,How true!
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214. SavannahStorm 5:52 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Say, Dr. Masters... How's about opening a seperate blog about global warming so that we can stay on topic about hurricane season? I'm getting sick of these global warming rants and counter-rants and it seems like they would be best channeled into a sperate thread...
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215. WhatHurricane 6:01 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Can anyone link me a few Models?
216. snowboy 6:04 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
um Savannah, this was actually Dr. Masters' topic... and it is THE topic of discussion these days in the atmospheric science fields of meteorology, climatology. Probably ok for an occasional excursion for this blog (especially when our host leads us there), at least until we have a tropical system to focus on.
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217. guygee 6:09 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Snowboy, your last few posts are right on the mark. I've given up trying to convince the skeptics; it is like a religion for them.

The problem, as I see it, is that there is so much "inertia" in our fossil fuel-based economy, that we will surely miss the short window for action needed to avoid a large change in the Earth's climate. The issue has been politicized, not by Al Gore, but by the sold-out establishment politicians and their corporate masters. All we can hope to do is to keep pressing our point until the damage becomes so obvious that even the corporations and their holocaust-denying apologists are suffering the effects of their folly. The real frontier in global warming research is in risk mitigation and adaptation. There will be a battle of the elites that is already beginning, as large corporations such as banks and insurance companies are beginning to realize the large losses and damages they face if human society cannot adapt to a more sustainable economy in the long run. Until then, much damage will be done.
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218. WhatHurricane 6:09 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Every civilization has to learn. If we survive the disruption of earth's natural ballance, We'll figure out what not to do... And then in a few hundred years C02 will begin to cycle out.. and the oceans will begin to cool, Everyone's preasous Ice caps will come back. I just don't see why everyone is bickering. History shows that Humanity will either kill itself or learn from its mistakes, and it often takes deaths to teach our semi-inteligent race whats wrong and right.

If you think global warming is going to cause mass destruction, Take cover... If you Don't think it will destroy anything, then don't. But what we can all do is use cleaner fuels and efficient machinery. Because even if you don't think global warming is happening It's still economically benificial to use such technologies.
219. guygee 6:20 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
I think it is much more likely that the effects of global warming have been underestimated, and that there are positive feedback loops not yet fully recognized, such as carbon and methane release from permafrost regions, massive deforestation, and possible methane hydrate release from the oceans. The release of greenhouse gases by human activities may well affect the Earth for hundreds of thousands of years or more, possibly throwing us out of the geologically recent cycle of ice ages. Humans may be able to adapt and survive, but there will be great disruption, and civilization as we know it today will be irrevocably altered for the generations to come.
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220. Pieman2 6:35 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Just for the record, Mt. Kilimanjaro is in Tanzania, just south of border with Kenya. Tanzanians are sensitive to this as a pretty large proportion of tourists access Mt. Kilimanjaro from Kenya thus affecting where the income is generated.
221. STORMTOP 6:39 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
GUYS GIVE IT A REST YOU ARE BEATING GLOBAL WARMING TO DEATH..THE AFRICAN DUST DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON THE WAVE OUT THERE..NOTHING WILL DEVELOP OUT IN THE OLD TROPICS UNTIL AFTER THE 4TH OF JULY...ITS GOING TO BE A SLOW HURRICANE SEASON GUYS DR GRAY WILL DROP HIS PREDICTIONS BECAUSE THE DUST IS BACK IN FULL FORCE AND THE WIND SHEAR IS REALLY STRONG......
222. Levi32 6:45 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
STORMTOP what happened to a storm on May 23 or after? lol! That's what you said in May, then you said mid-june, then late-June, and now July?!?!?!? LOL! Gosh make up your mind son!

Good night all!
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223. Alec 6:48 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
GUYS GIVE ME SOME HERMIT CRABS BECAUSE I BETTER YET JUST LIVE IN THE OCEAN AND NIBBLE ON SEAWEED FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AND SWIM WITH THE JELLY FISH AND RUN AN UNDERWATER CIRCUS IN THE LOOP CURRENT....THIS HAS BEEN AN UNOFFICIAL RANDOM RANTING BY GOOBER....LOL
224. Fshhead 6:49 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
LOL talk about giving it a rest!!!!
Hope your right this time though, slow season would be really good thing.
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225. Fshhead 6:50 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
LMAO!!!!!!!!
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226. Fshhead 6:52 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
LOL I have not heard about the circus in the loop current!!!!!!!!!!
luv dem seahorses......
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227. Levi32 6:57 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
LOL Alec! You're worse off then I thought tonight lol!
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228. Trouper415 7:29 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
We, at our current societal standpoint, are far from solving Global Warming and many other issues that face our nation today. Communities must be formed as the various aspects in solving these issues can be spread and learned much easier when this is done.

We should feel blessed to have the means in first recognizing Global Warming, and secondly, having the ability to solve it. We are, or should be in an energy transitional period right now anyways, and the days of cheap oil are over. We must look for new ways to power our homes, cars and economy, not having to rely on expensive fossil fuels anymore to do the work.

For those of you who know the possible situation we are getting ourselves into, I cannot stress more gravely, the importance of education. I meet people everyday who know nothing about Global Warming and its affects on our daily living. We must rise ourselves out from this era of passive activism, and ensure a stable future for our children. Whether your cause be solving Global Warming or not, we find ourselves crossroads. Crossroads that will determine if our generation will carry the torch into the future, shedding the light of prosperity for generations to come, or we simply continue this passive nature, shoving the evergrowing burden on the next generation to set forth on this great land.

Community
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229. guygee 7:31 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Since Dr. Jeff set the tone of this blog by discussing climate change, I thought I would offer a cool link to those tired of discussing global warming. It is a BBC transcript on the "Snowball Earth" that is believed to have existed 600 million years ago.

It is an interesting read with interviews with scientists from several disciplines. One of the interviews is with the famous Russian atmospheric scientist Mikhail Budyko. I read one of Budyko's books in the early 1990's and was very impressed. One of his famous predictions was that, if approximately half the Earth was ever covered by ice, then the resulting albedo feedback would result in a permanent "iceball Earth" that would remain stable for nearly the lifetime of the solar system. An interesting part of the transcript linked above involves what he neglected in his calculations, and how the Earth did recover from the worldwide ice age 600 million years ago.

In his book, Budyko also made the prediction that the Earth was only a couple of million years away from a "carbon dioxide death"; becoming a permanent iceball due to the sequestration of carbon in the Earth's crust to the extent that CO2 levels would fall below the level necessary for the atmosphere to retain enough heat necessary to keep water in its liquid state at the Earth’s surface. His book was written before global warming became a recognized phenomenom, but it was still a very interesting read. So I'll leave here tonight with this link for anyone that loves learning about paleoclimatology.
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230. guygee 7:36 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Trouper415 - You are absolutely right that we need to try to overcome our apathy and (in my case) cynicism, and try to keep educating everyone to the dangers we face regarding climate change and our unsustainable economy as a whole. I hope I wake up tomorrow with a renewed energy and sense of purpose in doing my part, however large or samll that may be.

Good night to all!
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231. ForecasterColby 7:51 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Okay. So let's assume global warming is human-caused and all because of CO2 emissions. What do you want us to do about it?

"Any corpratist shills want to start the ant Dr. masters rants? Oh come on, Hannity and Limbaugh - ddi you already forget your pathetic marching orders, neocon pawns?"

Why is it that anyone who disagrees with a liberal is automatically a mindless servant of the republican party? I can understand if you think partisan politics comes into it, but I would say that it does on both sides. Comments like that are really unnessessary and undermine your credibility and that of the point you're trying to make. Remember - most of the country still voted for Bush :)
232. radikalweather 8:02 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
(yawn) i am awake i am seeing what? dr masters blog? i am seeing right global warming hey guys a hacker entered this blog i can clearly see it!!!
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233. Trouper415 8:10 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
guygee,

Its never easy for me to wake up in the morning, knowing that there is hard work ahead, education people about issues that face us today. However I always think of the results that will come about from all this hard, persistant work. Our generation can easily solve these huge issues simply by dedicating time in solving Global Warming. We will have ensured the United States and World economy stength for hundreds of years to come. Strong Communities will be formed spreading propserity to every man, woman, and child living here. We would have ensured our children as beautiful a land as we have experienced, by being more conciencious and efficient with the ways we live. And we would have layed the concrete foundation in battling Global Warming for generations to come, who will live with challenges posed.

As a whole, it is very hard to solve a problem such as Global Warming, simply because we have not faced an issue of such prospective magnitude, leaving us in doubt at times whether it is even worth the effort to solve it. However, the benefits of solving such a collosal problem are even larger than the problem itself. So get out there and start talking to your neighbors, because the two biggest building blocks are education and community!

Patrick
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234. goldstein 10:04 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
The article quoteded by Daveg was previously discussed at http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/14/209235

The article by Harris is a propaganda piece. He works for a PR organization that does considerable business with the energy industry. Also, the canadafreepress.com site is, at least by Canadian standards, a fringe operation.

Robert
235. IKE 11:51 AM GMT on June 20, 2006    
SavannahStrom said..."Say, Dr. Masters... How's about opening a seperate blog about global warming so that we can stay on topic about hurricane season? I'm getting sick of these global warming rants and counter-rants and it seems like they would be best channeled into a sperate thread..."

AMEN!!!! Enough about it. Some believe...some don't. It just goes on and on and on and on.....
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236. HillsboroughBay 12:05 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Stormtop!

I hope you are correct! We need a big break. These Insurance rates are hideious. What other business can simply try and recoup a bad period's earnings? If the Car Companies & McDonalds tried it we could just NOT BUY. Buy we have no choice with Insurance. The sad part is they had recod profits & totally forget about 20 years of no loss for a customer who paid for that long. 1 Loss & BAM goes the rates for the entire market!

Pray for a quiet season for our region!
237. bappit 12:11 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
radikalweather: (yawn) i am awake i am seeing what? dr masters blog? i am seeing right global warming hey guys a hacker entered this blog i can clearly see it!!!

LMAO!

Blame that Masters guy. He started it! Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not. Did too. Did not.
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238. disneylogic 12:35 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Okay. So let's assume global warming is human-caused and all because of CO2 emissions. What do you want us to do about it?

it's straightforward: long term we need to reduce emissions and consumptive behavior. that needs to be facilitated by (1) doing something about reducing energy consumption, including federal demands that miles-per-gallon on all vehicles be increased, (2) pushing towards alternative energy sources, including nuclear, but "forcibly" resolving long-standing roadblocks, including settling the nuclear waste disposal problem, (3) going after stuff like fuel cells with more than token research and development, and (4) replacing our federal income tax with a progressive consumption tax (like Japan's) or a VAT.

that's all, as i said, long term. it won't do anything to begin reducing the damage that's been done for 70-100 years.

short term, we need to act like the threat is as urgent as it actually is, seeing it as the threat to our national economy and security. it would be nice to cooperate internationally on this but, failing that, we need to see our own interests and work to reduce our exposure to the effects of coastal flooding and storms. we need to create federal disincentives for building near the coast, need to build more refineries for gas and oil but do so with strict federal guidance and away from concentrations of existing and away from high risk areas (including geophysical risks, BTW). this will all need cash.

accordingly, we need to reduce the budget of the Department of Defense, especially its weapons programs, mothballing space-based weapons and missile defense, reducing the size of the military, alerting allies they are more on their own for their own defense, and use the savings to make these changes.

i only say the latter because i am a fiscal conservative, and we can't spend what we need to spend to prepare for the consequences of warming without getting it from some where. defense is a pretty big pole in the tent. we can talk about a gasoline tax to help, but i don't like those.

239. IKE 12:40 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
yawn.......
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240. sleepy 12:55 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
snowboy-sorry, went to bed (sleepy and all, you know) - I understand it's getting hotter - all i was trying to say about the numbers is that, according to gore's chart, the average daily temperature here in detroit should be, oh, say, about 108 degrees based on the current CO2 levels... i am so not a scientist (obviously) - i am just a pathetic member of the general public trying to understand - i don't take to being spoonfed by people on either side of an issue - so please don't misunderstand and take me for a skeptic with an agenda - that said, please let me rephrase my last post, and i assume someone will let me know if it's incorrect:
hmmm... so, basically, [due to the lag time] by the time we have the the numbers for the charts [to show the proportional relationship between CO2 levels and temperature], there really won't be anyone around to say 'we told you so'.
241. Cavin Rawlins 1:06 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Look at the Bahamas!
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242. Cavin Rawlins 1:08 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
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243. snotly 1:16 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Some models are showing tropical formation at 25N 70W this weekend early next week. (CMC)
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244. PBG00 1:17 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Saw that model this mornin..little worrisome for us...but still early
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245. LakeWorthFinn 1:22 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Thanks ST, was just going to ask about that African dust when saw you post.
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246. snotly 1:28 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Yea 456, anyone got any surface winds on that?
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248. ProgressivePulse 1:40 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
Getting a little saucy over there in the Bahama's.
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249. Cavin Rawlins 1:59 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
they said that an upper level feature will form and a surface feature could form below it this weekend.

Sources:Accuweather and The Weather Channel
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250. turtlehurricane 2:04 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    


this is somehting
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251. 53rdWeatherRECON 2:13 PM GMT on June 20, 2006    
STORM TOP you are killing yourself again. That "African dust" was there throughout the whole season last year that didn't slow it down one bit.
It is still early for Cape Verde systems to form.
We should only see developement in the carib, and gulf this early in the season (you know that)which if you look in those places today you might not find a TD but some waves are mixing it up.(as previously noted). Shear changes daily and we have seen systems develop in unprescidented conditions this year and last. Just hold on little buddy season's only 20 days old and things could heat up pretty quick. According to the long range CMC we may have 2 tropical systems to watch as early as this weekend.
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